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2004-03-05 Iraq-Jordan

Iraq Interim Constitution Signing Delayed

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Posted by cingold 2004-03-05 7:28:59 PM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Question for Rantburgers- is it Paul Bremers place to stand up to Sistani? Seems to be a big mistake not pimp slapping Sistani earlier. This guys agenda is clearly at odds with ours. What can be done? Let him be boomed?

Posted by ne1469 2004-3-5 7:48:49 PM|| 2004-3-5 7:48:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Bremer is walking a very tough, tight line. He wants the interim constitution to be of, for and by the Iraqi people. Sistani controls (influences) 30K Shi'ites who will take to the streets at the drop of a fatwa. If Sistani says "illegitimate", it is.

The Kurds have a right to be worried, but Sistani also has a point, sort of.

I personally think it's already doomed. As soon as you let a statement that "no law can be passed that is contrary to Islam", the game is over. An unelected judicial body can decide constitutionality by their interpretation of Islam. And I fear for the women of Iraq.

Posted by Loren 2004-3-5 10:30:25 PM|| 2004-3-5 10:30:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I think that Iraq, from the Sunni Triangle south is "doomed" to something, just not sure exactly what... civil war, years of jihadi strife, sectarian murder, lies, deceit, mob rule, insanity, Islam... I don't have all of the shackles that bind Bremer and the Bush Admin. I am with both of you on your main points, regards the Arabs, they need a massive slap-down then reboot the southern half.

The Kurds should not be held back.

My armchair solution:
Partition Irak into North and South. Write their initial constitution for them and IMPOSE it for 20 years - one generation. Turn the North loose now. Turn the South into a US-admin protectorate until they 'get it'. Stomp the shit out of violators with extreme prejudice. Only total ruthlessness will be respected. Sad. True.

BTW, who really needs UN recognition? Where will it bring anything of substance except some paltry donation pledges from countries with more economic gloom on their horizon than Irak? I'd find a discussion about the pros and cons of just continuing to go it alone interesting. We'll replace Venezuelan oil with Iraki imports... etc.

Fuck the Arabs. Go Kurds.

Posted by .com 2004-3-5 11:05:00 PM|| 2004-3-5 11:05:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Heh...somehow I knew this was going to happen in some form or another. I wouldnt be surprised if Bremer says "Fine don't vote on it, we'll implement something that WE want instead". The GC has been told from the beginning that this is not going to be turned into an islamic state nor are we going to let the Kurds be subservient or massacred or given no ability to have some control over their own lives.

Best case sees Sistani acting as the good cop here and saying to back the constitution, worst case we cram our own version in.

Posted by Valentine 2004-3-5 11:10:40 PM|| 2004-3-5 11:10:40 PM|| Front Page Top

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