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2003-10-30 Iraq

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Posted by tipper. 2003-10-30 12:44:48 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Stranger Bedfellows is posting this pseudo-pithy little lib piece from The Nation here in Rantburg. Is 'tipper' goring a private ox?

The Nation is an apologist's dream - and was a home for the stone-cold dead "homeless Pal" Apologist General Edward Said. For example, in their editorial eulogy of Said, they close with "A great and distinctive voice is stilled, too soon."
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20031020&s=editors2

Luckily, Said's still dead. But not soon enough, by about 30-40 years, IMO.

And this is a typical NaziMedia insinuation piece. Do they have anything approximating proof? If so, great! Just pony up and get Al Bunnyboy & Co on the list - what happens in Iraq is every American's business, now - so be a good citizen instead of a suckass lib slander rag, and put your proof in front of the people who can and will do something with it.

No? Oh dear - then what should you do? Well of course, write an insinuation piece and hope it rubs off on Dubya. Get a quote from a Law Prof who wouldn't know a terrorist from a towel rack and (surprise!) just happens to be the legal affairs correspondent for The Nation - definitely an impartial guy (doh!) - to imply sinister dealings are afoot cuz the list is not debated in a public forum. They imply they talked to several people (legal experts say...). but only name and quote one. Hmmm, so who is this convenient in-house Legal Affairs Advisor to The Nation? Why he's a NaziMedia dreamboat Law Prof! Wotta surprise!
http://www.law.georgetown.edu/curriculum/tab_faculty.cfm?Status=Faculty&Detail=235

BTW, should the powers that be do their deliberations in public regards something as important as the terrorist list? Has this bunch thought it through? Sure they have, but it doesn't serve them in this context, so it's discarded. Not to mention the little problem of giving true terrorists advance notice, what would happen to the unlucky people with innocent connections? It does happen and these clowns would be quick to point it out and do, I'm sure - when it serves their editorial purposes.

An innocent association made public would make anyone a prime target for unfounded allegations from those with an ax to grind - or ox to gore... rather like this fluffy little jewel of pseudo-reporting.

If they have anything solid, this is not how to handle it.

If they don't, this is precisely how to handle it.

Bite me.

Posted by .com 2003-10-30 3:58:36 AM|| 2003-10-30 3:58:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Strange bedfellows indeed. The Nation has less credibility than the National Enquirer. Reading this is as convincing as when the Enquirer tells us that GW is an alien.

Posted by B 2003-10-30 7:56:00 AM|| 2003-10-30 7:56:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Dan Darling, at Regnum Crucis, seems unhappy too.
http://tinyurl.com/szp8

Much as I applaud all of the interest in the comments box ...
While I agree that there's probably a lot more than should be disclosed about the al-Bunnia Trading Company (BTC), who its owners are, and whether or not there's a connection between it, the Iraqi government, and al-Qaeda.

However, my primary area of concern here is that Sadoon al-Bunia (one of the three principals of BTC) is a founding partner of an al-Qaeda front company. I'm not sure who Ahmed Idris Nasreddin or Youssef M. (Mohammed?) Nada are, but if they're running an al-Qaeda front company we might want to keep track of who their partners are. If Sadoon al-Bunia is still among them, why are they getting contracts? Why not simply save everyone some time and give the money directly to the next Ansar al-Islam thug we catch?

That is the primary reason that I blogged the entry.

Posted by tipper. 2003-10-30 7:59:31 AM|| 2003-10-30 7:59:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 like most big companies in the middle east, al-Bunia paid blackmail- big deal

Posted by mhw 2003-10-30 8:13:16 AM|| 2003-10-30 8:13:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 tell you what, ~~Murat~~ Tipper, when you manage to find a credible source, we'll show some interest.

Posted by B 2003-10-30 8:27:03 AM|| 2003-10-30 8:27:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Tipper couldn't be Murat - got the Title/Link thing going ;-)

Posted by Frank G 2003-10-30 8:51:27 AM|| 2003-10-30 8:51:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 My unhappiness, as I noted on my blog, is that if this is true (yes, the Nation is hardly the most objective source in this regard but let's suspend disbelief for a moment) al-Bunnia is still shilling for al-Qaeda they shouldn't be getting US contracts and any contracts they do have should be ended immediately. More to the point, al-Qaeda has used front companies and the like as a means to sneak operatives into countries before, so having one of them involved in Iraq especially just after the recent car bombings is a recipe for disaster.

Posted by Dan Darling 2003-10-30 9:07:17 AM|| [http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com] 2003-10-30 9:07:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Dan / tipper - you say IF. Until it's proven, Al Bunnyboy & Co shouldn't be tarred & feathered. I am no friend to Arab business - I endured 4 years of getting the run around and/or being screwed by them in Saudi, but you can't call this piece anything but innuendo with an agenda to blacken Bush by association - 2 times removed. The Nation is shit.

What almost immediately blackened Al Bunny for me was the fact that it's a large successful company which grew and prospered during Saddam's time. Common sense says they had to be cooperative at least, and maybe much more at worst. So I read this with that suspicion already present - and they failed to close the loop.

I'd prefer everyone to stop worrying about finding specific AlQ connectivity in everything. Although that is a dead giveaway, I'd say that bad guys who do bad shit and everyone who conspires with them and provides any material support (and I'm not far from adding immaterial support, such as being a ditzy ptool of socialist or Izzoid hate groups) should be prosecuted as part of the WoT - with or without AlQ links. AlQ isn't the nexus of everything...

The last link in a chain is not the most important, just the most conspicuous.

Posted by .com 2003-10-30 10:19:41 AM|| 2003-10-30 10:19:41 AM|| Front Page Top

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