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2003-10-29 Iraq

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Posted by tipper. 2003-10-29 9:42:50 AM|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I seriously doubt that our enemies are going to hold themselves to an equally lofty standard. This persecution is nothing but PC-inspired bullshit.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-29 10:19:16 AM|| 2003-10-29 10:19:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 There's a fine line, and I think he ventured just a little over the line. Remember, he also ordered his prisoner roughed up.

We can't be like them.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2003-10-29 10:27:01 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2003-10-29 10:27:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I hope the shit-for-brains PC-suckup JAG weenie who's driving this is drummed out of the service - sans the retirement goodies. Obviously, he hasn't Clue Oneâ¢ what it's like outside of the Beltway Bubbleâ¢ and has no standing regards judging the actions of real soldiers actually serving in a live-fire zone.

They'd better not follow through on this - or they will have sent the message loud and clear to the troops that the REMF gutless turds are in charge of the WoT - and still in charge of the Pentaloon.

Posted by .com 2003-10-29 10:35:08 AM|| 2003-10-29 10:35:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 This is crap. This man questioned a terrorist, and got information that potentially saved the lives of his troops. This little Iraqi TERRORIST is lucky that neither of those bullets hit him, I can't say I would have had the same restraint.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-10-29 10:53:53 AM|| 2003-10-29 10:53:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 We can't be like them.

Remember the CIA policy of trying to recruit "clean" people in foreign countries as agents? The reward was little to no agents on the ground in areas where they were needed. The U.S. paid dearly for that little piece of PC idiocy. There is a need for rules, but rules can and should be bent when prudent, especially in the face of an enemy that is trying to kill as many of you as they can in any way possible. This is one of those instances.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-29 11:34:47 AM|| 2003-10-29 11:34:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Can anybody say Presidential Pardon?

Posted by Charles 2003-10-29 12:32:05 PM|| 2003-10-29 12:32:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Better judged by 12 then carried by 6... and it sounds like they were gunning for him.

Posted by tu3031 2003-10-29 12:59:46 PM|| 2003-10-29 12:59:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 This is just another effect of the Clinton feminizing of the Army. I am glad I got out when I did, because I wouldn't have been as polite as this guy!

Posted by Greg 2003-10-29 1:26:03 PM|| 2003-10-29 1:26:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Second Charles' suggestion... and do it *now* to spare the officer the hassle of going through the trial.

Posted by snellenr 2003-10-29 1:40:39 PM|| 2003-10-29 1:40:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Roger that, Greg.

Hell, I'd have started with the goblin's toes and worked my way up.

Posted by mojo 2003-10-29 2:06:34 PM|| 2003-10-29 2:06:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 This is the type of leader we need more of. Take no shit, execute the mission, and take care of your lads in the process. His actions SAVED LIVES!! He has absolutely nothing to apologize for. I'd follow this guy. No offense to my Army bro's, but for their brass to entertain hurting this man's career is absurd. To even let it get any media attention is total horse shit. Some Army JAG-"OFF" is trying to make a name. Thank God I'm in the Corps.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-29 2:58:29 PM|| 2003-10-29 2:58:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 You know, I've heard stories that Viet Cong prisoners were taken up in helicopters and coerced into talking, then pushed out the open hatch with no parachute. This pistol-firing incident pales in comparison.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-29 5:46:49 PM|| 2003-10-29 5:46:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 You all make way too much from this. I predict that Col West will be convicted and forced to resign. But without loss of rank or benifits. There is not a group of Army Officers that would send this guy to Jail. Since the story is out they had to do something, this is probably the Army's way to come clean with a public 'incident'.

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2003-10-29 6:08:15 PM|| 2003-10-29 6:08:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I guess what I would like he to say is, "What I did was wrong. I am sorry that I embarrassed my country, but in the same situation I would make the same decision again. I am prepared to take one for the team."

Posted by Super Hose 2003-10-29 6:39:15 PM|| 2003-10-29 6:39:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 This reeks of one of Clinton's PC flunkies. His actions saved lives.

It isn't as if he started shooting off toes or anything...

Posted by CrazyFool 2003-10-29 7:12:37 PM|| 2003-10-29 7:12:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Cyber Sarge is probably right about the outcome. I'm just pissed it had to come to that. Someone high up needs to go to bat for this Soldier. Give him command of a Brigade.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-29 11:41:46 PM|| 2003-10-29 11:41:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 I wrote the other day about how senior promotions had undermined the Army's ability to wage war. This only confirms what I said. The people making these charges have never faces an enemy, have never been in danger, have never feared for their life. Unfortunately, they're well-insulated in virtually every part of our military, and it'll take a decade to weed them out.

As for SKor interrogation methods, some of them made me sick. They also got results. Twenty years ago, the kind of thing this Colonel did was actually TAUGHT at our interrogation school, along with 'good cop-bad cop' and a few other choice fundamentals.

Bomb - re the helicopter rides: Two or three Cong were taken up. The interrogator asked the first guy a question, which was usually ignored. The interrogator would grab him and toss him out the door. Then he'd start questioning the second guy. Definitely not PC, but then, neither is war. Compare our methods with those of Saddam that we learned about in Basra. Hell, even this colonel is a saint, compared to that!

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