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2003-08-21 Europe

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Posted by Steve White 2003-08-21 12:57:04 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It reminds me of the joke about the British Airways pilot who had trouble at a West German Airport.

West German Air Traffic Control denied him landing rights and he remarked: "Funny, the last time I came to Dresden, I was carrying a different cargo and I had half the trouble." The Germans let them land...

Posted by Brian 2003-8-21 2:26:38 AM|| 2003-8-21 2:26:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 A B-52 bomber was scheduled to arrive Wednesday

I would pay serious money to watch the approach from the cabin. Has a Buff ever been deep inside Russia?

Posted by Shipman 2003-8-21 7:47:17 AM|| 2003-8-21 7:47:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "But even while the number of commercial exhibitors has grown - bucking a trend at the more established Paris Air Show, which saw the number of participants drop this year "

Ahhhh must be the weak $ vs Euro thang

Posted by Frank G 2003-8-21 8:15:22 AM|| 2003-8-21 8:15:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 But even while the number of commercial exhibitors has grown - bucking a trend at the more established Paris Air Show, which saw the number of participants drop this year....

Ah, the US stayed away from Paris to punish the French government for their siding with the terrorists foreign (and domestic) policy. If this keeps up, Moscow will replace Paris as the premier air show.
Memo to Chiraq:
Don't **** with the US.

Posted by Jabba the Nutt 2003-8-21 8:28:32 AM|| 2003-8-21 8:28:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 A B-52 bomber was scheduled to arrive Wednesday

It'd be cool if they cleared a nap-of-the-earth flight plan over the Arctic Circle for it.

I don't expect they will, tho :-)

Posted by snellenr 2003-8-21 8:40:30 AM|| 2003-8-21 8:40:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Are we talking about the MegaFortressâ¢ here? Lessee, isn't that Stephen Coonts' toy?

Posted by .com 2003-8-21 9:01:20 AM|| 2003-8-21 9:01:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Dale Brown,.com.Just read "Wings of Fire".
Wendy Mclahnahan died.
Sorry about spelling on next post,guess I should have finished my first cup'a'joe.

Posted by raptor 2003-8-21 9:29:21 AM|| 2003-8-21 9:29:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 raptor - Thx - I didn't see a new book for over 2.5 yrs in SaoodiLand. Just getting back into the habit here in Heaven - read new Crichton book last week. I'll look for Brown, then - got a lot of catching up to do!

Posted by .com 2003-8-21 9:41:33 AM|| 2003-8-21 9:41:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 similar minds then...I just finished Brown's book, starting Clancy's new hardback

Posted by Frank G 2003-8-21 10:08:53 AM|| 2003-8-21 10:08:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 The F-16 pilot is a gurl!

And, no, we never expected the Falcons to make it to Moscow.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2003-8-21 10:10:23 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2003-8-21 10:10:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 -- it is still the powerful and world-renowned Russian military jets that steal the limelight.--

Not this year, and NOT w/F-16 pilot Capt. Jessica Rhyne.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-8-21 11:31:48 AM|| 2003-8-21 11:31:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Can you imagine being just a comrade and looking up on Wed and seeing a B-52 fly over?

Posted by Anonymous 2003-8-21 11:33:03 AM|| 2003-8-21 11:33:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Buff's don't do NOTE, snellenr. That's B-1 territory. George C. Scott not withstanding...

Posted by mojo 2003-8-21 1:25:25 PM|| 2003-8-21 1:25:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 mojo:

Perhaps not any more, but (from globalsecurity.org)

Although the new low level requirement would apply to the other SAC bombers, it would have its greatest impact upon the B-52. To fly the new attack profile, the B-52C through H models were modified with a new terrain avoidance radar, an improved radar altimeter, increased cooling capacity for sustained low altitude operations, modified equipment mounts, and a general strengthening of the aircraft's secondary structures. The goal was to permit reliable, all-weather operation at 500 feet, to avoid detection, and to minimize encounters with enemy defenses. Low level training for SAC bomber crews began in the late 1950's, with actual aircraft modification beginning in 1961.

FWIW...

Posted by snellenr 2003-8-21 1:50:59 PM|| 2003-8-21 1:50:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 What can I say? The goal wasn't reashed. Anybody that wants to jockey a B-52 through heavy fog at 500 feet is freakin' insane. It flies like a truck. A BIG truck.

Posted by mojo 2003-8-21 2:22:03 PM|| 2003-8-21 2:22:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 What? But what if the pilot was good?

Well, if he was good, I mean *really* good he'd come down low.... real low. Could he make it?

Hell yes!

Posted by Shipman 2003-8-21 7:39:12 PM|| 2003-8-21 7:39:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Buffs fly low - over oceans. Between 300 and 500 feet, depending on the mission profile, the attack profile, and the part of the globe. Most Buffs, however, wouldn't do "nape of the earth" flying because the reaction time for that lumbering junkyard flying in loose formation is too slow. Fuel consumption also goes wayyy up when flying low. You can play with the mission profile, and have some parts down low, but the average Buff flies at 2000 feet or higher. Anything else is suicide.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-8-21 8:33:31 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-8-21 8:33:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Fuel consumption goes wayyy up? Then just select another target! You'd still have enough fuel to ditch near the weather ship at tango delta.

Posted by Pete Stanley 2003-8-21 9:20:12 PM|| 2003-8-21 9:20:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Pete Stanley

LOL

Posted by Shipman 2003-8-22 7:34:58 AM|| 2003-8-22 7:34:58 AM|| Front Page Top

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