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2003-04-04 Iraq

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Posted by Steve White 2003-04-04 01:30 am|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The UN created Israel, yet the dirty majority has been trying to destroy it ever since. It is that majority which is interpreting the UN Charter in a lawless manner. Israel has always complied with the Charter, and not the sharia based orders of terrorists.

Posted by Anonon 2003-04-04 01:51:25|| 2003-04-04 01:51:25|| Front Page Top

#2 What, placing the oil under the UN, after all the hard efforts of operation free iraqi oil?

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 03:06:10|| 2003-04-04 03:06:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Why does the UN believe it has any authority left whatsoever? Are they going to send their uberarmy into Iraq to sort out the nasty Anglos?

Hey Murat, did you enjoy the football on Wednesday? Heh heh heh heh heh...

Posted by Bulldog 2003-04-04 04:14:18|| 2003-04-04 04:14:18|| Front Page Top

#4 Murat has a point. After what TotalFinaElf, the french run "oil for food" program, and the efforts to prevent the liberation of the Iraqi people, it would really dumb to hand it back to that bunch of windbags.

Posted by Ben 2003-04-04 04:23:41|| 2003-04-04 04:23:41|| Front Page Top

#5 Hi Bulldog, congrats with the victory, well deserved at least, but there is still the home game to play I have hope. I liked specially that Rooney guy, a very talented lat.

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 04:59:41|| 2003-04-04 04:59:41|| Front Page Top

#6 Hi Bulldog, congrats with the victory, well deserved at least, but there is still the home game to play I have hope. I liked specially that Rooney guy, a very talented lad.

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 05:01:19|| 2003-04-04 05:01:19|| Front Page Top

#7 By the time the fighting's over, all's calmed down, and the full extent of breaching of UN sanctions is exposed, the French and Russian reputaions will be so tattered I think they'll be inclined to keep shtoom over oil rights and will be trying to forget Iraq even exists.

Thanks Murat, but you didn't mention the second goal was of questionable legitimacy, to say the least. I commend your restraint. Next leg should be exciting - I hope the Turkish fans are better behaved than some of England's were this time.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-04-04 05:20:44|| 2003-04-04 05:20:44|| Front Page Top

#8 Till now the battle developed in a different way than planned, people didnât rise up against Saddam in fact they where (and still are) quite anti to the Anglo-Sakson coalition and there is still no proof of WMD weapons found which should legitimize this war (but these are of course of minor concern as one can bring in a couple of trucks loaded with chemicals and brand them as being Iraqi). Being sceptical I would be concerned of how to handle a 5mln populated Baghdad if they continue to show the same determination, is the coalition prepared for a show down of the proportion Mega Mogadishu and the civilian ~~casualties~~ liberations it would invoke?

Bulldog, the second goal was not that important anymore as the game was lost already. The game caused however quite an earthquake for our squad, the coach is likely to scrap Okan and Umit Davala for their bad performance and maybe a few others to be replaced by younger blood. Well the next game will be interesting indeed.

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 06:20:29|| 2003-04-04 06:20:29|| Front Page Top

#9 Flash news, last minute: another suicide attack kills 3 soldiers at the Hadisa checkpoint

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 06:26:00|| 2003-04-04 06:26:00|| Front Page Top

#10 Murat, when you say: "Being sceptical I would be concerned of how to handle a 5mln populated Baghdad if they continue to show the same determination, is the coalition prepared for a show down of the proportion Mega Mogadishu and the civilian (casualties) liberations it would invoke?" do you really believe that with overwhelming air power (we had no fixed wing in Somalia) and heavy armor (ditto, we had to borrow Pakistani [!] forces) that we're going to get sucked into anything resembling ~~Stalingrad~~ ~~Grozny~~ ~~Jenin~~ (oh Ethyl, my pills!) or do you think that we'll just crush them like the rest of the opposition?

Posted by Brian 2003-04-04 07:05:05|| 2003-04-04 07:05:05|| Front Page Top

#11 Brian, you are right when you put it like: crushing = liberating

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 07:09:53|| 2003-04-04 07:09:53|| Front Page Top

#12 So this is the UN ace in the hole to strongarm their way into postwar Iraq? Hold Iraqi aid (and the Iraqi people) hostage so they can advance their agenda? Beautiful. Restores my faith in this fine organization.

Posted by tu3031 2003-04-04 08:57:02|| 2003-04-04 08:57:02|| Front Page Top

#13 Oh poor murat, a Victim of Al-jazeera's selective journalism!

Posted by Ptah 2003-04-04 08:57:20|| [www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2003-04-04 08:57:20|| Front Page Top

#14 No, my dear Ptah, a victim of British journalism almost all my pieces posted where from British papers and sources.

Posted by Murat 2003-04-04 09:08:49|| 2003-04-04 09:08:49|| Front Page Top

#15 FINALLY! Murat has figured it out! We just had to put it in easier terms. Crushing = Liberating.
Pure genius I tell you.

Posted by Mike N. 2003-04-04 09:12:14|| 2003-04-04 09:12:14|| Front Page Top

#16 Don't forget to impound that $40 billion in Oil for Food cash in French banks when the program goes dark. It's not *their* money, y'know, it belongs to the people of Iraq.

Posted by mojo 2003-04-04 09:30:41|| 2003-04-04 09:30:41|| Front Page Top

#17 I think the traditional response is you and what army. Some sort of deal will have to be done eventually though.

Posted by Hiryu 2003-04-04 09:35:00|| 2003-04-04 09:35:00|| Front Page Top

#18 The oil can only go out under oil for food program because of the existence of sanctions. SO we may soon have the absurd prospect of the US pushing for an end to sanctions, and France vetoing!!!!!!

The principle US weapon against any UN authority is the proclamation of a provisional Iraqi government - in that case we would no longer be an occupying power but we would be present at the invitation of the govt. For various good reasons the US doesnt want to rush the creation of such a govt, but if the UN (IE the French and Russians) prove recalcitrant, thats the option in our back pocket.

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-04-04 09:40:29|| 2003-04-04 09:40:29|| Front Page Top

#19 Murat, MSNBC didn't need to truck the stuff in -

http://msnbc.com/news/895185.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1

Its starting to show up without government help.

Posted by Don 2003-04-04 10:00:43|| 2003-04-04 10:00:43|| Front Page Top

#20 Once again, we have the United Nations trying to dictate to the United States. Haven't they figured it out yet that we're tired of that c$$p and won't play? What are they going to do? If worse comes to worse, we can take a batallion of New York National Guard and ring the damned UN building, and lay seige to it. How long do you think those diplomatic types will be able to hold out? Rent the QEII for a few days, and transport them to someone who cares. France sounds about right - that way we only have to target ONE place, instead of several.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-04-04 12:50:04|| 2003-04-04 12:50:04|| Front Page Top

#21 Thanks Murat. We use the same semantics: crush, liberate. Just like the Kurds. Except, oh yeah, they don't throw flowers at your tanks, do they?

I guess we actually follow through on our committments to liberty (viz. Japan, Germany) while I hear the former-Ottoman nations are doing quite well in that department...

PS, Speaking of crushing, can you explain your nation's conduct in the Armenian genocide? Or is that just an Islamist thing to do?

Posted by Brian 2003-04-04 15:55:06|| 2003-04-04 15:55:06|| Front Page Top

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