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2019-12-19 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

F-35 can identify and destroy cruise missiles - Lockheed Martin

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Posted by trailing wife 2019-12-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [14 views ] Top
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#1 radar allows the advanced jet to identify and intercept airborne threats flying at a low altitude and at high speeds

Like CAS platforms?

Posted by Skidmark 2019-12-19 04:03|| 2019-12-19 04:03|| Front Page Top

#2 But can the F-35 turn to catch up with the cruse missiles?

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2019-12-19 04:28|| 2019-12-19 04:28|| Front Page Top

#3 You tell me.

Posted by Angating the Wide5629 2019-12-19 07:07|| 2019-12-19 07:07|| Front Page Top

#4 But can the F-35 turn to catch up with the cruse missiles?

Doesn't need too. One of the F-35's best features is the ability to feed all the information it gets into the combat network for other aircraft and ground units. It can see more, farther and better and can be another unit's eyes and targeting system.

At Red Flag exercises, the F-35 hung around after shooting its weapons and fed targeting info to the other friendly units, allowing them kills beyond what they would normally be able to do.

Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-19 08:25|| 2019-12-19 08:25|| Front Page Top

#5 It's not only with other air units. The F-35 transmits its situational awareness and targeting data to other ships, air defense, artillery and, soon, even infantry. It's going to be a flood of data that will clear the battlefield fog for those on the ground.

Posted by Angating the Wide5629 2019-12-19 08:38|| 2019-12-19 08:38|| Front Page Top

#6 It's going to be a flood of data that will clear the battlefield fog for those on the ground.
Then why not put these gadgets on a UCAV instead? Trying to sell the F-35 as as a "mini-AWACS" seems, IMO, an asinine idea when you are designing it to carry bombs.

Posted by magpie 2019-12-19 09:49|| 2019-12-19 09:49|| Front Page Top

#7 You tell me.

That's the F-35C which has larger wings and thus less of a stall issue in a turn than the "A" and "B" models while carrying a load..

AFAIK the IAF use the F-35I, which is based on the "A"model. so this video doesn't prove anything about the F-35I. (Except we know the Israels had to modify the heck out of it to make it usable.)

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2019-12-19 10:12|| 2019-12-19 10:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Air Force wants a "multi domain" approach where all the platforms can share. A UAV AWACS is certainly a good idea, but it's only one piece of the puzzle.

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-19 10:17|| 2019-12-19 10:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Then why not put these gadgets on a UCAV instead?

Because there will be nearly 3000 F-35s in the US inventory and probably, all told, another 2000 w/ allies. The hardware is already there as part of its mission systems. It's is writing the software (not only on F-35) to connect all these assets together and have them work as a team.

That's the F-35C which has larger wings

The F-35A with smaller wings (and mass) has a better sustained turn rate than the "C". The C has a better instantaneous (initial) turn rate because of the bigger wings but can't keep up due to higher induced drag.

Look up F-35 and Herbst (or J) turn for direction changing ability.

Posted by Angating the Wide5629 2019-12-19 10:45|| 2019-12-19 10:45|| Front Page Top

#10 But can the F-35 pilots play beach vollyball the way Tomcat pilots could?

Posted by rjschwarz 2019-12-19 10:47|| 2019-12-19 10:47|| Front Page Top

#11 (Except we know the Israels had to modify the heck out of it to make it usable.)

AFAIK, the Israeli have added some new Software Defined Radio waveforms to communicate w/ their C&C environment (it is an app that communicates w/ the F-35 operating system via an API). They haven't added any hardware. In the future they will also integrate some of their weapons, but again that is a software job akin to writing a driver for a PC (see Universal Armament Interface (UAI)).

Posted by Angating the Wide5629 2019-12-19 10:55|| 2019-12-19 10:55|| Front Page Top

#12 Then why not put these gadgets on a UCAV instead? Trying to sell the F-35 as as a "mini-AWACS" seems, IMO, an asinine idea when you are designing it to carry bombs.

It is designed to do a lot of things. Drop bombs, kill planes, transmit targeting data and jam radars. UCAVs usually are too small and can't do the full workload.

Posted by DarthVader 2019-12-19 11:00|| 2019-12-19 11:00|| Front Page Top

#13 UCAVs usually are too small and can't do the full workload.
Two points: (1) The UCAV is expendable (no pilot) and has to be transmitting to do all of these mini-AWAC things (Hi, I'm transmitting so shoot me!) and (2) Sometimes it pays dividends to specialize (The multirole fixation of the bean counters gave us programs like the LCS and the F-111...).

Posted by magpie 2019-12-19 11:36|| 2019-12-19 11:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Air Force wants a "multi domain" approach where all the platforms can share.

Didn't I see a problem with this on the relaunch of Battleship Galactica (2004)?

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-19 15:41|| 2019-12-19 15:41|| Front Page Top

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