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2011-12-04 Africa North

Rich Egyptians weigh emigration as Islamists surge

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Posted by trailing wife 2011-12-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 "...Salafi Islam, rejecting Western culture and favoring strict segregation of the sexes and the veiling of women..."

this includes banning sale and distribution of alcohol, banning all public eating during daylight in Ramadan, prohibiting non Moslems from any supervisory positions where Moslems would be reporting to them, prohibiting outdoor concerts and outdoor art, prohibiting banks from loaning at interest or from paying interest and quite a few other things

notwithstanding this, expect the salafis to begin a charm offense soon with support from much of the western left

Posted by Lord Garth 2011-12-04 00:15|| 2011-12-04 00:15|| Front Page Top

#2 prohibiting banks from loaning at interest or from paying interest and quite a few other things

That. right there, will doom him, the banks cannot survive without intrest (Call it whatever yoi wosh)

Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-12-04 01:01|| 2011-12-04 01:01|| Front Page Top

#3 ..they're call 'fees'. They have a whole book of examples to follow from their American counterparts who've had decades of creative experience of squeezing blood from a rock.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-12-04 08:38|| 2011-12-04 08:38|| Front Page Top

#4 the Egyptian on the street needs to get the lifestyle they voted for. Crushing religious tyranny, stifled tourism, no food, no jobs.

Fun, fun, fun. You voted for it, you deserve it. Idiots

Posted by Frank G 2011-12-04 08:54|| 2011-12-04 08:54|| Front Page Top

#5 I am not so pessimistic about Egypt in the short term, or more properly, I am not so pessimistic about the same things.

To start with, because of helpful humanitarianism, and reusing inoculation needles, about 10% of the Egyptian population have hepatitis C. Nothing can be done for them, except what could be done to alleviate the most troubling problem for most people.

That is, they need cheaper food. The way, *any* government in Egypt could become very popular right now would be to scrape together whatever money they could and import LOTS of cheap food that Egyptians want to eat. Give it away.

That would buy a lot of breathing room for whoever is in charge.

As far as who is in charge goes, if it's not the Salafists, then Egypt will remain much the same, with only cosmetic differences. The MB refuses to form a coalition with the Salafists, so their only alternative is to form one with the secularists.

And the MB over the years has frequently culled its membership that were too radical. They spun off into little groups to do their radical thing, but the parent party became increasingly moderate at the same time. This is why the MB has never been classed as a terrorist organization by governments other than Egypt's, and they are intensely aware of the fact.

They are quite aware that they are large, powerful, and *not* shunned. And they most likely want to keep it that way.

Of course, having power is always different than wanting power, but even then they have an excellent example in Turkey of how a more moderate Islamist party can get and keep power.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-04 09:31|| 2011-12-04 09:31|| Front Page Top

#6 The way, *any* government in Egypt could become very popular right now would be to scrape together whatever money they could and import LOTS of cheap food that Egyptians want to eat. Give it away.

That is the rub. They don't have enough money to buy LOTS of any kind of food. And I'm not so sure Uncle Sugar will want to step up to the plate to save the MB in an election year.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-12-04 09:56|| 2011-12-04 09:56|| Front Page Top

#7 And I'm not so sure Uncle Sugar will want to step up to the plate to save the MB in an election year.

Whether or not President Obama wants to, he'd have to persuade the House Republicans to spend the money. What odds would you give?

Posted by trailing wife 2011-12-04 11:34|| 2011-12-04 11:34|| Front Page Top

#8 The way, *any* government in Egypt could become very popular right now would be to scrape together whatever money they could and import LOTS of cheap food that Egyptians want to eat. Give it away.

That's the problem. Bread is cheaper than animal feed. Guess what the animals eat - foreign exchange.

Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-12-04 13:02|| 2011-12-04 13:02|| Front Page Top

#9 "Egypt's population is the largest in the Arab world, and is generally young, with 35 percent below age 14 and just 4 percent older than 65. Almost 50 percent of the population is below 20 years of age and 39 percent under 15, presenting a real challenge to government in creating job opportunities."

Read more: Egypt - Location and size, Population, Industry, Mining, Manufacturing, Construction, Services http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Africa/Egypt.html#ixzz1fb0s5uvq

Also Suez canal revenue has been dropping for years, several billion. I look for Suez canal to be a hot spot shortly.

Posted by Dale 2011-12-04 14:32|| 2011-12-04 14:32|| Front Page Top

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