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2008-12-30 Home Front: Culture Wars

As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.

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Posted by tipper 2008-12-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 E.g. FREEREPUBLIC/TOPIX > There's also been two big asteroid or meteor fireball sightings over the USA dur this Holiday season.

Iff this were ancient or medieval times, or even the turn of the 20th century, these SOLAR FLARES {ee Late Cycle "24"], FIREBALLS, etc would be interpreted by Astrologers and other "Wise Men" as "DIVINE/HEAVENLY SIGNS" OF A COMING EVENT ANDOR GREAT LEADER.

As said or argued times before, IFF THERE IS ANY ISLAMIST MESSIAH = HIDDEN-IMAM/MAHDI, HE CAN'T ASK FOR BETTER LOCAL-WORLD CONDITIONS TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE THAN THE 2008-2012/2016 POST-DUBYA PERIOD, + DESTROY THE INFIDELS IN THE NAME OF GOD AND ISLAM.

HISTORY CHANNEL Prog > GLOBAL WARNING!? = As per GW, the Earth will be getting HOTTER + HOTTER + ..... in the years and decades to come. Iff one believes that God is "in tune" wid ANY AND ALL NATURAL FORCES INCLUD SPACE, THEN BY LOGIC THE ABSENCE OR DESTRUCTION OF GOD = MESSIAH [God into Man] WILL UPSET THE NATURAL-DIVINE ORDER???

OTOH > END-TIMES = TO KILL THE MESSIAH IS TO KILL THE SUN [among other].

What more iff POTUS Obama indeed proves to be a CARTER II, i.e. CARTER-ERA SOVIET EXPANSION IN ASIA + AMERICAS, AS COUPLED WID ROLLBACK OF US GEOPOL INFLUENCE AND CREDIBILITY???

* NO ISLAMIST "MESSIAH" = WORSENING OF GLOBAL WARMING/SOLAR HEATING ON EARTH, and thats NOT even counting the RUSSIAN SPACE ROCKS 2013-2022/24.

In the Year 2525 .......

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-30 00:27|| 2008-12-30 00:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Dem SPACE ROCKS are getting CLOSER, + BIGGER.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-30 00:28|| 2008-12-30 00:28|| Front Page Top

#3 in the comment section I liked this one:

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More likely scenario, if things get that bad, is that we will eat the Mexicans and Canadians, feed the Russians and Chinese to our livestock and burn the Iranians for fuel.

Posted by 3dc 2008-12-30 00:38|| 2008-12-30 00:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Texas will be the heart of "The Texas Republic," a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence.

That's the bit that most clearly identifies him as a loon. It's more probable that the city of Lubbock will annex Mexico.

That said with total government (state, federal, & locsl) spending running over 40% of GDP, governments at all levels essentially insolvent, regulatory compliance (and non-compliance) costs running another 10-20% of GDP and the whole host of other economic issues in the US it's tough to see a way out that doesn't involve very near-term and very dramatic reductions in the size & cost of government ... precisely the opposite of where we're heading. As much as I hate to admit it he may be on to something with the idea of an '10 financial meltdown that will drastically alter the USA.

Posted by AzCat 2008-12-30 00:40|| 2008-12-30 00:40|| Front Page Top

#5 One thing I like about this scenario: the Republic of Texas stretches clear to the Atlantic Ocean. :)

Posted by gromky 2008-12-30 00:50|| 2008-12-30 00:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Cool. Does this mean we (Canada) get the missle silos?

Posted by Chemist 2008-12-30 01:00|| 2008-12-30 01:00|| Front Page Top

#7 Hell, if you just count the Army and Air National Guards of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Oklahoma as one unitary military - you have the strongest military in all of Latin America. At least on land and in the air. If Texas were to split off, what would most likely happen is that Texas would control Mexico and not the reverse. Also, Alaska and Western Canada would form a Confederation LONG before Alaska would be part of Russia again.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-12-30 01:10|| 2008-12-30 01:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Besides which, Nevada, Utah, and Arizona would probably go with Texas; as would North and South Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, and most of Virginia excluding that which is within 50 miles of Washington DC.
Also, there would be a good chance that the Pacific Northwest (Oregon, Washington, and Idaho) would go to a Confederation with Canada, rather than be shackled to a Californian republic.
The man is just looking at existing borders and not the social and economic factors involved.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-12-30 01:29|| 2008-12-30 01:29|| Front Page Top

#9 Throw in Colorado with TX - the Guard here interoperates with TX, full squadron of F-16s and the whole of the 3/19 Special Forces, a special forces capable helicopter unit.

Add to that Northcom in Colorado Springs and Ft Carson (4th ID and 10th SF Group).

Colorado provides the capstone ans strategic depth with central geopolitical positioning (rail and air) to the "Republic of Texas".

Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-30 01:57|| 2008-12-30 01:57|| Front Page Top

#10 TN would not align with the Northeast. Didn't he ever hear of the War of Northern Aggression?

Posted by BrerRabbit 2008-12-30 03:55|| 2008-12-30 03:55|| Front Page Top

#11 A long, long time ago I read a book "The Nine Nations of North America" (or some such) which theorized the breakup of the United States. It was fairly well done. The author drew upon a lot of cultural/regional history to make his projections. This Russian guy, however... looks like he just took his crayons and colored a map.

Posted by Plastic Snoopy 2008-12-30 04:01|| 2008-12-30 04:01|| Front Page Top

#12 There's a game called "Crimson Skies" that is set in 1930s America, and the premise is that the USA has broken up due to the stress of the Great Depression. It's pretty well-written for a game, and the story leading up to the breakup is interesting, if you have a spare 10 minutes or so. It appears the authors actually studied history, unlike most producers of popular content these days.

Posted by gromky 2008-12-30 04:18|| 2008-12-30 04:18|| Front Page Top

#13 this professor is guilty of extrapolation. He's witnessed russias identity crisis and concluded that all states will necessarily face the same end. In his extrapolation he fails to attribute the single constitution of the 50 states, versus the cobbled together expropriation of the russian cabal. russia has an identity crisis, which wont go away anytime soon. Its thugery, is its ultimate betrayer. Having experienced living under russia prime, no one cares for a repeat of the experience. No amount of wishfull thinking or extrapolation by way of identity projection can change what is flawed due to its inherently corrupt underpinnings.

Posted by Spiny Gl 2511 2008-12-30 06:26|| 2008-12-30 06:26|| Front Page Top

#14 Canada would split too:
West: NWT, Yukon, BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba
Central: Ontario and Cree Quebec, Nunavut
Quebec: A tiny French speaking sliver in southern Quebec
Atlantic provinces: NS, NB, NF, PEI--They would cluster with other "New", New Yawk, New Hampshire New Jersey...

Alaska to Russkis--no way. Fuggetaboutit. Forming a confed with Western Canada. In any case, Siberia would be Chinese, Russkis would be nowhere near Alaska.

Oregon, WA, Idaho joins Western Canada

California splits into Shasta Republic (North + coastal strip SF, LA, including Berzerkly) Orange Free State, and South joins Texas -- (AZ, NV, UT, NM, CO, OK, TX, KS maybe too) which consequently colonizes northern Mexico states. I said "colonizes".

Southern Mexico, Belize, Honduras, Guatemala form Maya Republic and reestablish a capital in Chichen Itza. Corrupt officials will be thrown into the famous well, stripped of any gold or precious metals. Chac Mool feeds on humans, not gold!

MI, IL, parts of OH, PA join the North Atlantic cluster.

Southeast: from LA to SC would try on their own, but likely join with Texas at some point.

Centralia: the rest.

Russia splits into Volga Republic (south) and Moskva Republic (north). Volga joins Ukraina later. As said, Siberia (anything east of Ural) goes to China.

Posted by Spike Uniter 2008-12-30 06:43|| 2008-12-30 06:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Excellent stuff, Spike. May Cthulhu grant it becomes real.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-12-30 07:10|| 2008-12-30 07:10|| Front Page Top

#16 Southeast: from LA to SC would try on their own, but likely join with Texas at some point.

No pecans, peaches or crude oil for the North Atlantic Cluster!

Posted by Besoeker 2008-12-30 07:38|| 2008-12-30 07:38|| Front Page Top

#17 Colorado might split in two. The areas of Denver, Boulder and Fort Collins are heavily liberal and would not be thrilled to go with the heavily conservative south. Colorado is in effect, two separate cultural areas.

Maybe we could take the military forces from the south, conquer the north and drive the liberals out once and for all.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-12-30 09:48|| 2008-12-30 09:48|| Front Page Top

#18 DV, them libs can move to Shasta Peoples Republic!

Posted by Spike Uniter 2008-12-30 10:06|| 2008-12-30 10:06|| Front Page Top

#19 In fact, thinking of it, why not make a collection, purchase Baffin Island, move all the libs over there? They can hug polar bears all year long and make snow angels too! We'd promise that they'd have an uninteruptible supply of kool aid. That is a small price to pay, I think. Trees, that is a bit iffy, they are none there, but perhaps we can make enough fake plastic ones to give them something to hug beside polar bears.
Ben & Jerry can move there--ideal condition for ice cream production!

Posted by Spike Uniter 2008-12-30 10:16|| 2008-12-30 10:16|| Front Page Top

#20 Mr. Panarin's apocalyptic vision "reflects a very pronounced degree of anti-Americanism in Russia today," says Vladimir Pozner, a prominent TV journalist in Russia. "It's much stronger than it was in the Soviet Union."

And french wingnuts will eat that up too, given that "nationalist" russia is now overhelmingly their champion against the Empire, and Strong Leader putin their beloved Man on A Horse.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-12-30 10:47|| 2008-12-30 10:47|| Front Page Top

#21 upper U.S.annexed by Canada? More like - will Annex Canada.

Posted by Andy Ulusoque aka Broadhead6 2008-12-30 10:53|| 2008-12-30 10:53|| Front Page Top

#22 Spike,
Trees, that is a bit iffy, they are none there
No trees NOW, but once the glbal warming takes full effect Baffin will be a tropical rain forest.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2008-12-30 11:40|| 2008-12-30 11:40|| Front Page Top

#23 Vladdy Posner? Wasn't he Nightline's in house real, live commie many moons ago?
I'll bet Putin makes him sport wood. Just like the good old days...

Posted by tu3031 2008-12-30 11:50|| 2008-12-30 11:50|| Front Page Top

#24 Hey! What about bleeding Kansas? We want to play and do have the Big Red One, and a lot of food.

Posted by bman 2008-12-30 12:08|| 2008-12-30 12:08|| Front Page Top

#25 How about immigration. I gotta get out of NJ, can I be first in line for Texas?

I can work and I own a couple of guns.

Posted by Hellfish 2008-12-30 13:04|| 2008-12-30 13:04|| Front Page Top

#26 Spike Uniter,
Very glad to see you gave Manitoba to the West. I'd hate to be stuck with Ontario.

Posted by Chemist 2008-12-30 15:48|| 2008-12-30 15:48|| Front Page Top

#27 Is this is a typical Russian expert?

Posted by Darrell 2008-12-30 16:25|| 2008-12-30 16:25|| Front Page Top

#28 Damn.Why wait? Could we surender before Penn State KICKS USC ass in the Rose Bowl?

Posted by MarkZ 2008-12-30 18:07|| 2008-12-30 18:07|| Front Page Top

#29 Penn State will not kick USC's ass until hell freezes over.

Figure it will not happen until after 2020 or after Paterno retires (which ever comes first).

Posted by Frozen Al 2008-12-30 18:31|| 2008-12-30 18:31|| Front Page Top

#30 We're not going back to Russia. No way. Been there, done that. Dead end. Russia will eventually lose Siberia and Chukotka to the Chicoms by neglect and squatting. Our Yukon Territory friends are good. BC needs to throw out their socialists. Joe from Guam can join us.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2008-12-30 21:01|| 2008-12-30 21:01|| Front Page Top

#31 Kansas comes with Colorado. Except KC. That can go to Missouri.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-30 22:12|| 2008-12-30 22:12|| Front Page Top

#32 We are in MO, but my better half is from TX, sooo we would be Texas bound. Maybe STL would become a free city, it is already independent from STL county.

Posted by djh_usmc 2008-12-30 23:29|| 2008-12-30 23:29|| Front Page Top

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