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2017-12-19 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Update: Fotos from the Dupont, WA Amtrac train crash

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Posted by Besoeker 2017-12-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 So is the corner they were on rated for 30mph and everything else rated for 79?

Posted by gorb 2017-12-19 03:39|| 2017-12-19 03:39|| Front Page Top

#2 So, evidently the speed goes from highway speed+ to school zone speed for the curve. The engineer should have slowed down about a mile back, cause it's a train.
I think they do need one of these in California; make the legislature ride it.

Posted by ed in texas 2017-12-19 09:35|| 2017-12-19 09:35|| Front Page Top

#3 I wanna know what is the meaning of LABRAT KNATS? Is it mere coincidence that this graffiti shows up on that bridge?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-12-19 10:05|| 2017-12-19 10:05|| Front Page Top

#4 The tight bend appeared to be directly in front of the locomotive still on the tracks. Maybe he braked for the turn and due to a system failure the cars and/or locomotive behind didn’t, causing the train to jackknife.

Posted by KBK 2017-12-19 11:51|| 2017-12-19 11:51|| Front Page Top

#5 The tight bend appeared to be directly in front of the locomotive still on the tracks.
The train was southbound, had a front locomotive and a rear locomotive. The front locomotive derailed & fell onto I-5. The rear locomotive never derailed & was still on the tracks. NTSB in a TV interview stated they retrieved the event recorder from the rear locomotive & verified the train was going 80 mph when the derailment started. They haven't yet spoken to the engineer.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-12-19 12:38|| 2017-12-19 12:38|| Front Page Top

#6 Where the lead engine wound up. Camera is aiming to the northeast.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-12-19 12:59|| 2017-12-19 12:59|| Front Page Top

#7 " I wanna know what is the meaning of LABRAT KNATS?"
Satans lab rats?

Posted by newc 2017-12-19 13:55|| 2017-12-19 13:55|| Front Page Top

#8 So speed appears to be the problem rather than something on or done to the tracks.

Human error is always a strong possibility. I don't know anything about automated controls and signalling on rail systems, but given our current crop of enviro-anarchists, I have to wonder if there was a warning signal that was disabled or a control system tampered with.

Posted by SteveS 2017-12-19 15:01|| 2017-12-19 15:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Wow, thanks Anguper. So you've seen the photo of the other engine on the tracks with a tighter curve beyond the direction it's pointing? The train managed to (almost) negotiate that at 80 mph?

Posted by KBK 2017-12-19 15:56|| 2017-12-19 15:56|| Front Page Top

#10 King5 also has animation of wreck. Train was running west parallel to I-5 before reaching a curve and overpass south bound.

Actual fatalities so far are _3_, not 6. But I’ve also heard/read that 2 trains cars may have more bodies—the cars are not secure so recovery has been delayed.

Posted by Dar 2017-12-19 16:09|| 2017-12-19 16:09|| Front Page Top

#11 #8 - signalling systems are nearly idiot-proof. The drivers - not so much. Engineers are supposed to know every curve and every speed restriction before the leave the terminal. Driving a passenger train while texting killed 25 in California in 2008.Chatsworth, 2008

Posted by Bobby 2017-12-19 17:25|| 2017-12-19 17:25|| Front Page Top

#12 #3 I wanna know what is the meaning of LABRAT KNATS? Is it mere coincidence that this graffiti shows up on that bridge?

Googling around a bit suggests it has been there from some time, like a few years. Lots of curiosity about it.

Posted by SteveS 2017-12-19 18:13|| 2017-12-19 18:13|| Front Page Top

#13 If there is Auto Train Stop on this route, the engineer wqasn't using it. Also, this was the FIRST run on a NEW route, pulled by a NEW engine, with notables aboard (most of whom got off a stop behind the wreck), so where was the Road Foreman of Engines who by tradition for such a run, would have been in the cab with the engineer?

Posted by Rivrdog 2017-12-19 20:18|| http://rivrdog.typepad.com/rivrdog 2017-12-19 20:18|| Front Page Top

#14 Anguper Hupomosing9418, I set the width of your picture at 450. It was breaking the Burg.

Posted by trailing wife 2017-12-19 20:22|| 2017-12-19 20:22|| Front Page Top

#15 grafitti: LABRAT KNATS its been there for a long time

Posted by 746 2017-12-19 21:03|| 2017-12-19 21:03|| Front Page Top

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