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2009-12-14 Home Front: Culture Wars
Obama Orders 1 M Troops to prep for Civil War - Euro Union Times?
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Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-14 09:50|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 The European Times? Is that like the Onion? Or is it supposed to be more like Pravda?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-12-14 11:50||   2009-12-14 11:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Appears the origin of the article is here and here. Interesting I suppose, but I'm not sure how credible it is.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-14 12:04||   2009-12-14 12:04|| Front Page Top

#3 I can see similar events but for totally different reasons and outcomes. To start with, the recall of most US forces except in a few critical places would *have* to be done if the US and/or international economy collapsed. In fact, it *should* have begun, with little fanfare, over a year ago.

That is, most of our military personnel move by commercial transport. But if the dollar collapses, they would be stranded all over the world. Some creditor nations might even try to delay their return, until their loans had been repaid.

As far as oil goes, the collapsing economies would also dry up the international oil trade, but the US would not be in terrible shape.

To start with, there is a lot of oil "in the system", and the strategic petroleum reserve would start pumping into the system immediately, though it cannot pump a lot, this would slow down the eventual running out.

At the same time, there are a bunch of idle wells that would come on line, and the oil companies would begin extensive drilling. The utility companies would switch to natural gas in parts of the country that could, freeing up oil for the parts without natural gas.

While the Democrats might think they would be happy to see $5/gal gas, when that happens the public will scare the heck out of them, so any nonsense about not drilling will be quickly forgotten.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2009-12-14 12:43||   2009-12-14 12:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Overthrowing the country is only cool when the groovy leftist kids do it.
Posted by SteveS 2009-12-14 12:53||   2009-12-14 12:53|| Front Page Top

#5 OTOH OBumble and the Donks have been acting as if they have nothing to worry about come '10.
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-12-14 12:55||   2009-12-14 12:55|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm glad to see the Ruskies are drinking from the same well as zero. Once the intel is peeled back, bringing troops home, oil and bank failures, etc... They look at it from their jaded glasses that America is weak and will fall apart. While Obama may fail and drag America down a little, we will never fail.
Posted by 49 Pan  2009-12-14 13:05||   2009-12-14 13:05|| Front Page Top

#7 I see the Russians haven't given up the vodka - in fact, I'd say they've doubled down.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2009-12-14 13:18||   2009-12-14 13:18|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm pretty sure the vodka consumption has increased here also since Obama became Czar
Posted by chris 2009-12-14 13:28||   2009-12-14 13:28|| Front Page Top

#9 Nobody's overthrowing sh&*. Just try it libtards.
Posted by Jolumble Henbane2334 2009-12-14 13:36||   2009-12-14 13:36|| Front Page Top

#10 While Obama may fail and drag America down a little, we will never fail.

An utter failure by Obama from this point forward would, indeed, damage America a bit; a successful Obama, on the other hand, could destroy it. That's a feature not a bug in the eyes of The One and his ilk.
Posted by AzCat 2009-12-14 14:49||   2009-12-14 14:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Does the US even have one million active Army troops anymore?
Posted by Jeager Panda5130 2009-12-14 15:06||   2009-12-14 15:06|| Front Page Top

#12 A million men, in just over a month?

Yeah, that'll happen.

US active military, all services: 1.3 million (2008)
Posted by mojo  2009-12-14 15:10||   2009-12-14 15:10|| Front Page Top

#13 Just remember as you read this horse manure that a fair portion of the Euro-masses will take it at face value, that benighted continent having exported many its best genes westward or to the antipodes in former times or slaughtered them in various wars in more recent days.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2009-12-14 15:33||   2009-12-14 15:33|| Front Page Top

#14 Well, it's not really aimed at the "euromasses", brwosning the articles archives, you can't miss it's a red-brown website, with a thing for jews (hey, they covered the 25000 ukrainian kiddies stuff) and the NWO/bankers meme. Comments follow suit. It's a bit like reading Jeff Rense, really.
Posted by anonymous5089 2009-12-14 16:14||   2009-12-14 16:14|| Front Page Top

#15 "Some creditor nations might even try to delay their return, until their loans had been repaid."

Brings Xenophon and the 10,000 to mind. It was their march home through the rotting Persian Empire that turned Greek eyes toward the conquest of the East.
Posted by Helmuth, Speaking for Glolutle8025 2009-12-14 16:59||   2009-12-14 16:59|| Front Page Top

#16 So. How many of these 1 million troops would actually side with a rotten and arguably illegitimate Federal Government, in the face of several million heavily armed and pissed off U.S. citizens? 10%, 20%?

I think if Civil War were to breakout, D.C. would go down faster than they could whistle Dixie. I can't say for sure, but I bet that there have been several BCD talks among certain Governors about just what would trigger a secession, and then how to use their collective National Guard troops to the greatest benefit. Just sayin'.
Posted by Jolung Henbane8454 2009-12-14 18:26||   2009-12-14 18:26|| Front Page Top

#17 [Proverbial "Left Field" here].

* ION WMF > "CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR" US MEDIA: AL-QAEDA ["Base" Group] TO BEGIN ENTERING THE USA FOR TERROR OPERATIONS. MUSLIM AMERICANS TO BE INCREASING RECRUITED ON-LINE.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-12-14 19:50|| na  2009-12-14 19:50|| Front Page Top

#18 TOPIX > REPORT: ISLAMIC TERROR RISING AS AL QAEDA FADES. Many Islamist Milit-Terrs Gruppes are acting unilaterally or locally to accomplish their Group-specific agendums.

SAME > THE ALLEGED GROWING DOMESTIC MUSLIM THREAT. Many International Muslims are angry at US-NATO mil presence in Muslim nations, thus are eager to join Milit-Ter Groups including for suicide attacks. ARTIC NUTSHELL > IIUC THE LONGER ARMED US TROOPS STAY OVERSEAS IN MUSLIM LANDS, THE GREATER THE RISK OR PROBABILITY OF TERROR STRIKES BEING LAUNCHED INSIDE AMERICA.

Muslim Amers agz Americans???

* SAME > YEARENDER: ARMED MAOIST INSURGENCY SPREADING ACROSS INDIA; + THE "PAKISTAN" OF CHHATTISGARH [inside India]LEAVES ANTI-NAXAL FORCES PUZZLED.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-12-14 20:34|| na  2009-12-14 20:34|| Front Page Top

#19 Wow, how did they ever scoop Pravda on this?
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2009-12-14 22:27||   2009-12-14 22:27|| Front Page Top

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