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2004-12-14 Europe

Politicus: Chirac rolls out design for U.S.-European ties

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Posted by anonymous2U 2004-12-14 2:27:26 AM|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "A traveler from Europe was recently asked in Washington how the Bush administration might best make a gesture toward Europe for delivery before March."

I know exactly the gesture I'd use.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-12-14 6:14:11 AM|| 2004-12-14 6:14:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Talk to the hand."

Posted by Steve 2004-12-14 8:10:58 AM|| 2004-12-14 8:10:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 EU = one seat on security council

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-14 8:23:16 AM|| 2004-12-14 8:23:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 In London, the talk in Downing Street runs in the direction of Bush "doing something (!) substantive about the Israeli-Palestinian situation" if he wants to make good on the reaching-out-to-Europe notions that the administration uses to describe his trip

As usual, the Brits try to impress their Euro-colleagues and the Whining arabs by trying to have the US impose impossible things on Israel.
The self serving bastard Blair is trying to make a scapegoat out of the only true democracy in the ME.
It's high time the British internalize the fact that their age-old method of divide and conquer and the old colonial style of meddling in the internal afairs of other countries, will not work here.
Dubia is too smart to swallow the "European Hook"
While he owes a lot to Blair for unfailingly standing by his side in the WOT, Dubia realizes that kow-towing to the Arabs will earn him nothing but disdain and back-stabbing from the Arabs(like he got from the islamoid government of Turkey at a time of dire need).

Neverthless, I expect some token speeches and small gestures (mainly verbal) about US-EU unity and friendship... Blah, Blah, Blah, just enough to keep the appearance of harmony.

Posted by Elder of Zion 2004-12-14 8:43:44 AM|| 2004-12-14 8:43:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 In London, the talk in Downing Street runs in the direction of Bush "doing something (!) substantive about the Israeli-Palestinian situation" if he wants to make good on the reaching-out-to-Europe notions that the administration uses to describe his trip.

I imagine that cluster-bombing terrorist camps in the PA would not go over well with the Europeans.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-12-14 8:52:02 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-12-14 8:52:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Perhaps Mr. Chirac would do better if he consulted with his European and U.S. allies before "rolling out" anything -- especially a design for European-U.S. ties. Right now he has all the credibility of a marriage counselor going through a bitter divorce.

Posted by Tom 2004-12-14 9:05:41 AM|| 2004-12-14 9:05:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Robert,
As a second thought, may I suggest American financing of the "Arafat Mausoleum" that will be built on the ruins of the "Tour D'Eiffel" in Paris.
The Mausoleum will also include a "University of international terror" , the "Institute for comparative Dhimmitude studies", and "L'Ecolle De Assassin".

Posted by Elder of Zion 2004-12-14 9:06:59 AM|| 2004-12-14 9:06:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Wake me when there's talk in France and Germany on what they can do to make up to the US.

Posted by Spot 2004-12-14 9:12:36 AM|| 2004-12-14 9:12:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Chirac rolls out design for U.S.-European ties
link

Posted by 2b 2004-12-14 11:53:02 AM|| 2004-12-14 11:53:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, maybe we can start with pulling the troops out of Germany.....
I'm sure France will be willing to defend them with their "multipolar" view of the world.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2004-12-14 12:30:32 PM|| 2004-12-14 12:30:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Chirac rolls out design for U.S.-European ties

link

Posted by 2b 2004-12-14 12:53:56 PM|| 2004-12-14 12:53:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 2b - you're on a roll, heh.

Posted by .com 2004-12-14 1:05:01 PM|| 2004-12-14 1:05:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Chirac's desperate. A joke at home, ignored abroad, and quite possibly soon to be implicated in OFF as his pal Maugein's kickbacks become clear.

Nothing to see here, move along please

Posted by lex 2004-12-14 1:23:46 PM|| 2004-12-14 1:23:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 This is a common meme (our having to ask for forgiveness) among the talking head lefties. No, France owes us for our not meddling at UN re its ICoast adventure. France owes us for our not kicking it in the nuts for its meddling in Iraq when it said there should be a peace conference with all legit Iraqi groups represented. Of course, at the top of the legit group is Sadr and the beheaders. France owes us for its role in UNSCAM. MSM has to protect it, of course. On top of that, remember French officialdom/intellectuals/media all (well, how about 90%?) fervently believe the US needs to be cut down to size and punished over successes in Afghanistan and Iraq since we didn't ask nicely first. Get it folks? Been that way since De Gaulle withdrew France from Nato (a huge pain) which also meant a move to Brussels for new Nato HQ (a manageable pain)
W, where the relationship works, fine. Where it doesn't, tell 'em to go eat escargot.

Posted by chicago mike 2004-12-14 2:04:25 PM|| 2004-12-14 2:04:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 lol 2b!

Posted by half 2004-12-14 2:04:58 PM|| 2004-12-14 2:04:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I suugest a pair of US-made handcuffs in the wrists of Chirac. That would be a strong US-European tie.

Posted by JFM 2004-12-14 3:24:23 PM|| 2004-12-14 3:24:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Bush should be visiting the more important European countries: Italy, Poland, Hungary, (depending on what happens in the elections - Ukraine), and the UK. Don't waste time on hostile states like France, Germany, and Spain.

Posted by RWV 2004-12-14 5:27:32 PM|| 2004-12-14 5:27:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Frank G, the only way that the EU should have a seat on the security council is if they admit Russia. Then we could sit back and watch France, the UK, Russia and the wannabe Germany argue about who, how, why, and what to do.

Posted by RWV 2004-12-14 5:31:28 PM|| 2004-12-14 5:31:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Agreed that Bush's first stop should be Poland. Preferably Krakow or some other historic place close to the Ukrainian border.

Posted by lex 2004-12-14 5:44:15 PM|| 2004-12-14 5:44:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Lex, that doesn't work geographically. How 'bout if Bush goes there last, but stays the longest, perhaps at the Polish version of The Ranch? And he probably shouldn't eat with Chiraq -- you can never tell what might end up in the soup.

Posted by trailing wife 2004-12-14 8:13:09 PM|| 2004-12-14 8:13:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 RWV - that was my intent - ONLY one seat for all EU countries

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-14 8:17:10 PM|| 2004-12-14 8:17:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 you can never tell what might end up in the soup.

dioxin?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-14 8:39:13 PM|| 2004-12-14 8:39:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Snails, truffles, dioxin... you never know. Those frogs will serve almost anything with a wine or cream sauce.

Posted by Tom 2004-12-14 8:54:05 PM|| 2004-12-14 8:54:05 PM|| Front Page Top

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