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2006-12-09 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Should We Use Sunnis Against the Shiite Ayatollahs?

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Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-12-09 09:09|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Since Muslims will be killing somebody, it's best if they concentrate on killing each other.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-12-09 10:50|| 2006-12-09 10:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Should we use Sunnis against Shiites? Yes
Should we us Shiites against Sunnis? Yes.

Posted by Grunter 2006-12-09 11:46|| 2006-12-09 11:46|| Front Page Top

#3 If the Saudis would pull their heads out of their asses, then they would realize that they can make a deal with us that suits their needs. Of course, they will have to stop funding al Qaeda and Hamas and pump enough oil to reduce prices, but we can deliver Lebanon to the shia free zone, and weaken the shia grip in Iraq, and make war with Iran. In the process, we can remove some of the anti-Israel forces sleeping in the rubble of Gaza.

Posted by wxjames 2006-12-09 12:10|| 2006-12-09 12:10|| Front Page Top

#4 I think it is less about the religion than the race. Hack up Iraq/Syria/Iran to create an independent Kurdistan (Kurds in Turkey should be convinced to immigrate if possible). Split the Azerbaijanii out of Iran and let them go solo or join their brothers in Azerbaijan. And divide the Shia Arabs out of Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq to create a Shia Arab state as a buffer between the Shia Persians and the Sunni Arabs.

The Sunni rump of Syria and Iraq can go to whatever Sunni nation can keep them in line.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-12-09 12:22|| 2006-12-09 12:22|| Front Page Top

#5 Any Middle East intra-Islamic war of religion, if it comes, would be a horrific, bloody and protracted affair.

So you are saying that all these "problems" we have been having in Iraq are actually more of a win-win scenario.

Posted by Excalibur 2006-12-09 14:49|| 2006-12-09 14:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Sat Dec 9 Al-Zarqawi said Shiites most dangerous

The slain terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi purportedly believed that Iraq's Shiite Muslims were more dangerous than U.S. forces and more evil than dictator Saddam Hussein, according to a posthumous interview published Friday on the Internet.

December 8, 2006 Osama bin Laden defended attacks by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi

CAIRO, Egypt Osama bin Laden defended attacks by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi against civilians in Iraq, purportedly saying in a taped Web message Friday that the slain militant was acting under al-Qaeda orders to kill anyone who backs U.S. troops.

Dec. 9 MIDEAST: SAUDI KING, ARAB WORLD ABOUT TO EXPLODE

Seems like a wider conflagration in the Middle East is inevitable.

Posted by RD 2006-12-09 15:51|| 2006-12-09 15:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Any Middle East intra-Islamic war of religion, if it comes, would be a horrific, bloody and protracted affair.

Like that's a bad thing. No news here, this has been going on for centuries.

Am I feeling just a little cynical some five years after 9-11? Yew betcha'. If we can put the Sunnis and Shiites at each other's throats, then let's do it. I'm tired of these shitheads killing our fine young soldiers.

I'd love to see a more eloquent solution to the MME (Muslim Middle East) problem. Short of a nuclear holocaust, few present themselves. Those most prone to violence will be the first to die in sectarian strife. This fulfills our requirements for national security in so many ways that we would be fools not to encourage it.

Islam itself is so treacherous that any ploy such as this upon our own part comes across as honest dealing. As I have mentioned countless times before, the bottom line we must take away from our involvement in Iraq is that Muslims simply love to kill other Muslims. The time has come for us to step aside and allow them wish fulfillment.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-09 15:54|| 2006-12-09 15:54|| Front Page Top

#8 eloquent solution

Make that: 'elegant solution'. Carry on.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-09 15:56|| 2006-12-09 15:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Thing is, Zen, helping them kill as many of each other as possible is exactly what we did during the Iran-Iraq war.

From that standpoint, letting the US military get so invested and form lasting relationships with Iraqi forces was a really dumb thing to do. Now we know their names and faces and families, and don't want to see the place ripped apart again.

Ideally, the best solution would have been to lay waste to Iraq, leaving nothing but a warning that we won't be so nice next time. But we're stuck with what we have now, and we don't want to re-create the Iran-Iraq war, this time with us right in the middle of it.

I'm not saying I know what the solution is, but I guess I am saying that stopping short of annihilating every last scrap of enemy capability back in 2003 made today's situation more or less inevitable.

It will be very sad, in some respects, if we simply bail and let Allah sort em out. At the same time, US security comes first. If they're killing each other, they won't be killing us, and frankly, I care more about us than them -- particularly when they still do not see how Islam breeds crapulence and bloodshed. If 1400 years of experience has not taught them, we sure as hell can't.

Posted by exJAG 2006-12-09 19:03|| 2006-12-09 19:03|| Front Page Top

#10 It will be very sad, in some respects, if we simply bail and let Allah sort em out. At the same time, US security comes first. If they're killing each other, they won't be killing us, and frankly, I care more about us than them -- particularly when they still do not see how Islam breeds crapulence and bloodshed. If 1400 years of experience has not taught them, we sure as hell can't.

That's the bottom line, exJAG. I, too, would like to see some sort of peaceful democracy installed in Iraq. It appears to be the last thing they (i.e., their leaders) want. Right now, the top priority is no longer Iraq. Neutralizing Iran, heads our Christmas list and we need to get about it.

I'm willing to go a bit more of the distance in Iraq, but I'd just as soon rinse and repeat through their leadership inventory a few times to come up with a crop of individuals who really want a peaceful democracy.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-09 19:48|| 2006-12-09 19:48|| Front Page Top

#11 Zenster:

Yah, get Iran out of the way and al-Sadr and Hezbollah go with them. Then Iraq Sunnis will go after their own terrorists.

That pro-Shiite editorial in the Wall Street Journal is scary. East coast conservatives need an education.

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-12-09 21:47|| 2006-12-09 21:47|| Front Page Top

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