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2019-12-08 Home Front: WoT
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Posted by Fred 2019-12-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11138 views ]  Top
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#1 One wonders where Lt. Al-Shamrani got that gun for his sudden jihad — he can’t possibly have bought it legally...

Saudi Naval base killer exploited LOOPHOLE to legally purchase handgun he used in shooting - despite ban on non-citizens buying firearms
The Saudi military student who killed three and injured 12 when he opened fire at Navy Station Pensacola on Friday used a loophole in the law to purchase the handgun he used in the attack.

Mohammed Saeed al-Shamrani, 21, bought the firearm legally from a store in Pensacola by providing the business owner with his hunting license, sources told NBC on Saturday.

Non-citizens are prevented from buying firearms, unless they are in possession of such a license.

The New York Times has reported the handgun as being a Glock 45 9-millimeter with an extended magazine. al-Sharami is said to have had four to six other magazines in his possessions at the time the shooting occurred.
Posted by Snusotle the Lesser4227 2019-12-08 00:57||   2019-12-08 00:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Labeling this a terrorist act fixes responsibility. The footprint appears to be growing. I simply cannot believe no one was watching, or was unaware of Alshamrani or his followers.

Total situational awareness failure, or foreknowledge and complicity. You decide.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-08 01:14||   2019-12-08 01:14|| Front Page Top

#3 I'll take Foreknowledge and Complicity for $2,000, Alex.
Posted by Lex 2019-12-08 01:19||   2019-12-08 01:19|| Front Page Top

#4 "Austere Religious Scholar":

An uncle of Alshamrani, Saad bin Hantim Alshamrani, told CNN from Saudi Arabia that his nephew was 21, and "likable and mannered towards his family and the community." He said his nephew "has his religion, his prayer, his honesty and commitments."
Posted by Lex 2019-12-08 01:21||   2019-12-08 01:21|| Front Page Top

#5 Ref #4: Uncle's statement proves the entire society is totally insane.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-08 01:28||   2019-12-08 01:28|| Front Page Top

#6 How and how quickly can we detach ourselves from (and protect ourselves from the excrescences of) that insane society?
Posted by Lex 2019-12-08 01:37||   2019-12-08 01:37|| Front Page Top

#7  Uncle's statement proves the entire society is totally insane

Besoeker's comment brings to the front a rather important background context, considering the fodder for the jihad. Islamic youth. Can they really be empathetic toward some photos of goat-herders killed in airstrikes, while being pathological in their hatred for the humans they live, eat, work with daily ? Or is their a set of peculiarities to a certain unhinged 'kind' that can help you differentiate between them and other, 'non-performing' muslims ?

If one were to be absolutely empirical about vetting, early warning, threat detection policies I'd say the well mannered, religious and 'liked by the community' type are the most dangerous bastards of all.

The phenomenon has been studied very well, by experts working toward bringing islam to political nullification, not academics wanting to bed an Arab student. Obviously no one in the west is listening to the real experts, Asians.

The concept of training martyrs is a dirty copy and bastardization of the idea of Nazirites in jewish history. Just like almost every major aspect of islam. You dedicate one son to being a 'faithful'. If Allan accepts your works your lovely summbitch could even be 'called' one day. The richest and most affluent, educated families, or those living in western countries maybe within reach of govt jobs or legal careers escape martyrdom since they're more valuable for lawfare. The poorest sections, down an' outs get to meet the virgins, their upbringing and tuition is taken care of by 'erb's beloved umma which also pays out their families after. Of course, not every young man allows his fucked society to do this to him, so tries to barter for a way out by 'diversifying' into other forms of jihad or the support of it.

'Uncle, I can't do all that. But I am sending a hundred quid a year, proceeds from my underage p0rn and extortion business. '

The ones who were 'raised right' are tasked with getting in to place and wait for years for the call from Allan, which usually arrives on phone or in a corner of the local mosque, where the handler meets them. This relationship is also not suspect, it's discussions and rapport between an old fuddy duddy and his favourite nephew mostly. Carried out in code and idioms, you cannot arrest them for it.

It's all too complex to deal with if you're going to go about with cause → effect jurisprudence and armed with modern legalities. To deal with it, the justice system shall have to formally detach from certain enforcement arms in a limited capacity, and this idea causes friction with the jurists because it is their niche - power over police. You know what that means. Yes. Extra-judicial actions.

The Xinjiang experiment in fact is the most humane way of dealing with islamic jihad, because you cannot deal with jihad without dealing with islam. And they too are not succeeding, mind you. They are at best holding a tide back, with very expensive dams.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-08 02:26||   2019-12-08 02:26|| Front Page Top

#8 The question what needs to be asked, IMO, Dron - is there a difference between an average Muslim and a clinically certifiable sociopath?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-08 02:47||   2019-12-08 02:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Tsarnaev brothers handler to the invisible scrambler phone...

"If you know the identity of these two young men, please call the Special Agent in Charge, Boston Field Office at the phone number provided on your screen."
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-08 04:39||   2019-12-08 04:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Know muslims, no peace. No muslims, know peace. I’ve long held the opinion that Islam must be destroyed, regardless of how many would have to perish.
Posted by Fat Bob Javish1936 2019-12-08 05:53||   2019-12-08 05:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Know muslims, no peace. No muslims, know peace.

That deserves to be a poster. Words stenciled on a Rage Boy pic.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-08 06:03||   2019-12-08 06:03|| Front Page Top

#12 And Trump's travel ban was considered the equivalent of Kristallnacht.

We are ruled by morons. Morons with a cultural suicide wish.
Posted by Lex 2019-12-08 07:25||   2019-12-08 07:25|| Front Page Top

#13 If our civilization survives, Mohammed (Piss Be Upon Him) will overtake Hitler as The Worst Person In Human History™

while Hitler's ideology destroyed millions of lives, Mohammed's ideology has destroyed not only the lives but the humanity of billions.
Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2019-12-08 08:40||   2019-12-08 08:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Maybe Adam Schiff and the FBI should focus a bit on Muslim foreign nationals instead of our President, congressman and journalists.
Posted by Airandee 2019-12-08 09:11||   2019-12-08 09:11|| Front Page Top

#15 If Pensacola was a gun free zone how did he get it on base and why didn’t his purchase ring an alarm somewhere?
You would think a foreign military student buying a firearm through a legal loophole would have popped up on someone’s computer screen.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2019-12-08 09:51||   2019-12-08 09:51|| Front Page Top

#16 ...they were watching p0rn.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-08 09:59||   2019-12-08 09:59|| Front Page Top

#17 The way things are, he could have convinced them he need it to feel safe in all this islamophobia in Pensacola and they'd have said, 'Oh, okay then'.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-08 10:11||   2019-12-08 10:11|| Front Page Top

#18 Now I understand why the Serbians tried to kill off the Muslims.
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2019-12-08 15:32||   2019-12-08 15:32|| Front Page Top

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