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STD fears sparked Assange rape case - reuters story with all the dirt

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Posted by anon1 2010-12-07 17:42|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 another lengthy loggorhea attack by anon1 over Assange.

Posted by Frank G 2010-12-07 19:50|| 2010-12-07 19:50|| Front Page Top

#2 anon1, you're missing the point. The charges were only an excuse to arrest Mr. Assange, as a famous Chicago gangster was once convicted for evading taxes on his ill-gotten gains, rather than for mass and individual murder, rum-running, houses of ill-repute, and all the other illegal activities his gang were engaged in.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-07 20:23|| 2010-12-07 20:23|| Front Page Top

#3 For those not familar with Dr. White's turf, TW is referring to the infamous Alfonse Capone.

Posted by Bobby 2010-12-07 21:09|| 2010-12-07 21:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Hello TW, yes, that is exactly right. The charges are a pretext.

But the law should not be used in that fashion. Especially when Assange is not a bank-robbing bandit but a journalist.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-07 21:21|| 2010-12-07 21:21|| Front Page Top

#5 He's a terrorist and terror supporter and should be treated like one.

He's vermin and I hope that the families of those whose death he's caused catch him and spend a few years torturing him and broadcasting it to the world.

Posted by Silentbrick - Lost Drill Bit Division - Halliburton 2010-12-07 21:39|| 2010-12-07 21:39|| Front Page Top

#6 he's not a journalist. Jeebus. He publishes secret documents, you twit. That's espionage. Do you see him gloating over publishing documents damaging other countries? When has he published internal Russian or Chinese documents and gloated? He's an anti-western terrorist and you are too damn stoopid to explain otherwise. I'm done. It's like explaining algebra to a cat. You'll never get it

Posted by Frank G 2010-12-07 21:40|| 2010-12-07 21:40|| Front Page Top

#7 I read somewhere that Sweden has the highest incidence of rape in Europe. If the behaviour described constitutes rape, no wonder. It wouldn't be rape in any other European country. In a Muslim country the women would be stoned to death, or at least 500 lashes.
I doubt that when their ancestors set off for a weekend of murder, rape and pillage across Ireland and England in the dark ages that rape then constituted "have you been tested for STD".

Posted by tipper 2010-12-07 22:04|| 2010-12-07 22:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes, Tipper, exactly right. Not rape by any standard in Australia. Regardless of whether anyone likes or hates Assange for his politics, this at least is a fact we agree on.

to #5
A terrorist is an individual who uses violence against civilians to spark fear in order to acheive a political goal.

Julian Assange is NOT a terrorist. He is not our enemy. He is an Australian citizen.

As editor of a news site, Wikileaks, he is a journalist.

Wikileaks writes stories and gives the link to the source document so people can double check the accuracy and context for themselves.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-07 22:14|| 2010-12-07 22:14|| Front Page Top

#9 Maybe he's not your enemy but he is mine and the enemy of my nation for his attempts to cause political change by using terror tactics that result in people dying.

I hope that everyone that's supported him gets the same treatment as well.

Posted by Silentbrick - Lost Drill Bit Division - Halliburton 2010-12-07 22:18|| 2010-12-07 22:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Okay. I can read. And therefore, I know the definition of rape differs in Scandinavia.

Im relatively new here. But I think Anon1 really should give the Julian Assange lectures a rest. We are all adults here. Therefore, being forcibly shoved into Anon1's world of opinions for days and days is what I object to. ANON1, PEOPLE CAN FORM THEIR OWN OPINIONS. WE CAN READ. WE CAN WRITE. WE CAN DECIDE WHAT WE THINK ABOUT ASSANGE. PLEASE STOP BEING ONE OF THE MOST OVERBEARING PEOPLE I HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF RUNNING ACCROSS. THANK YOU.

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-07 22:19|| 2010-12-07 22:19|| Front Page Top

#11 #9 : releasing information is not a terror tactic.

Blowing up buildings is

Persecuting journalists is

If the US extradites Assange from Sweden, if this pretext is just so he can become a "rendition" then ANZUS is dead.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-07 22:33|| 2010-12-07 22:33|| Front Page Top

#12 Fire and Ice: we are debating and sharing ideas.

If you want a "yes" club where everyone agrees with you, maybe Rantburg is the wrong forum. Have a look at the logo.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-07 22:34|| 2010-12-07 22:34|| Front Page Top

#13 "Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion- No universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition of terrorism currently exists."

And it gets better. This is wikipedias blurb as of today. So terrorism is much more than blowing up building, Anon1, dear.

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-07 22:41|| 2010-12-07 22:41|| Front Page Top

#14 Anon1, it is you that wants a yes club. That is why you have been BLUDGEONING readers with your thoughts about Assange, coming at it from every angle, in hope to induce submission or just get everyone so tired of hearing you they just give up.

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-07 22:44|| 2010-12-07 22:44|| Front Page Top

#15 #9 : releasing information is not a terror tactic.

perhaps then we should see your school grades. Your personal diaries. Any emails you sent to anybody (who KNOWS what could be in those). Your medical history. Your sexual partners. Your family and friends: all of the above. After all. It's freedom to know, eh?

Posted by Frank G 2010-12-07 22:44|| 2010-12-07 22:44|| Front Page Top

#16 The Prophet Mohammed ordered his people to terrorize unbelievers for the purpose of causing them to surrender, either converting to the master religion or accepting dhimmi status, with all that entails. Mr. Assange's actions were, per his own admission, for the purpose of making the American government unable to function. Should he succeed in his aim, we will de facto surrender to the Caliphatists of Al Qaeda and all the other jihadi groups who have be working together to conquer us for their god.

It does not matter that the release of this and previous information is not a current terror tactic like suicide bombs, IEDs, and hijacked airplanes, or classical terror techniques like total war and murder. The purpose is to force surrender. Will he, nill he, Mr. Assange is either a part of the jihadi war or a supporter of it. Burn him. After a fair trial on charges valid in the culture in which they were made.

As for the rape rate in Sweden, nowadays a great many of them are real rapes by real jihadi gangs for the purpose of demoralizing the natives, only a portion of which are reported by the terrorized native girls. Or so I've read.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-07 23:03|| 2010-12-07 23:03|| Front Page Top

#17 anon1, any comment on this story, which directly contradicts his op-ed posted in opinion?
When I try to question him about the morality of what he's done, if he worries about unleashing something that he can't control, that no one can control, he tells me the story of the Kenyan 2007 elections when a WikiLeak document "swung the election".

The leak exposed massive corruption by Daniel Arap Moi, and the Kenyan people sat up and took notice. In the ensuing elections, in which corruption became a major issue, violence swept the country. "1,300 people were eventually killed, and 350,000 were displaced. That was a result of our leak," says Assange. It's a chilling statistic, but then he states: "On the other hand, the Kenyan people had a right to that information and 40,000 children a year die of malaria in Kenya. And many more die of money being pulled out of Kenya, and as a result of the Kenyan shilling being debased."

It's the kind of moral conundrum that would unnerve most people, that made some wonder last week what the potential ramifications of the latest leak might be, but it is a subject on which Assange himself is absolutely clear: "You have to start with the truth. The truth is the only way that we can get anywhere. Because any decision-making that is based upon lies or ignorance can't lead to a good conclusion."

Posted by tipper 2010-12-07 23:15|| 2010-12-07 23:15|| Front Page Top

#18 Assange = Predatory Blackmail artist, not to be confused with Journalist.

The textbook definition of blackmail is when wthe threat consists of the dissemination of damaging information. AHEM.

Next up, psychological coercion, Assange's next tactic. First, the predator regards the vic's relationships and attempts to narrow the victim's available choices and allegiances in order to set up the victim to become instrumental to the predator's interests. The vic could be a person, a country, or a set of countries. The goals of coercion could be totally selfish, or couched as "altruistic" as is the case with Mr. Assange. In actuality, I suspect Mr. Assange is mostly out to gain power under the pretext of saving freedom of saving information. This type of coercion 'like saving souls' has religious underpinnings but there is nothing altruistic about it. Hence, the reason why people buck under the whip of an impure imposter posing as a soul saver.

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-07 23:16|| 2010-12-07 23:16|| Front Page Top

#19 Hospitals close on a weekend?

Posted by Skidmark 2010-12-07 23:43|| 2010-12-07 23:43|| Front Page Top

#20 Translation please Skidmark?

Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-07 23:45|| 2010-12-07 23:45|| Front Page Top

#21 Hello TW, I hate the jihadis too.

But Julian Assange is not trying to support the Jihadis.

Frank G: your point about whether my personal details being released is terrorism or not is not relevant in this case. Wikileaks does not publish the personal details of individuals.

"US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates admitted in a letter to the US congress that no sensitive intelligence sources or methods had been compromised by the Afghan war logs disclosure. The Pentagon stated there was no evidence the WikiLeaks reports had led to anyone being harmed in Afghanistan. NATO in Kabul told CNN it couldn't find a single person who needed protecting." Assange in The Australian.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-08 00:04|| 2010-12-08 00:04|| Front Page Top

#22 @Anon1: Publishing stolen state secrets is not "journalism".
Especially since publishing said stolen state secrets has severe repercussions to America and it's allies.
Not to mention the number of people killed because of his foolish behavior.

Asshat is not a journalist. Period.

Anon1, I'm afraid your moral compass is broken.

Asshat needs to be hung by his nuts and beaten with a whiffle bat, until he understands & feels the pain he has caused the US and our allies.

Posted by Mikey Hunt 2010-12-08 00:05|| 2010-12-08 00:05|| Front Page Top

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