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2005-12-05 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran sez it's running out of patience on the nuclear issue

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-12-05 00:56|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Yes, threats are useless now, we only understand loud booms.

Posted by Ebbonter Slitch5293 2005-12-05 02:19|| 2005-12-05 02:19|| Front Page Top

#2 This is exactly why they should not have the bomb. They have no patience and will resort to emotional responces. Once they have it we will be face with deadline after deadline so they can have their "Rightfull" whatever. Allowing this has no up side.

Posted by 49 pan">49 pan 2005-12-05 07:55|| 2005-12-05 07:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Yes, we only have a few months left to start saying what they want to hear.

Posted by Ebbineting Glavirong2660 2005-12-05 07:56|| 2005-12-05 07:56|| Front Page Top

#4 "A few months. We have a limited time framework for talks."

My what an interesting juxtiposition with the ElBaradei comment that they'll have the bomb in 6 months.

Any bets on how many months in "a few"?

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2005-12-05 09:28|| 2005-12-05 09:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Imagine for a second what would happen if they were way behind on the bomb schedule. The bombs don't work, someone sent them pinball machine parts instead of real equipment. Certainly Iran couldn't say so without looking foolish and losing face in the Islamic world. In that case the best bet would be to provoke a limited attack, an attack against the nuke sites that would eliminate evidence and galvanize the Islamic world to your side.

You wouldn't want to go so far as to get invaded so you'd deny Al Queda was in your country, but you'd want to bluster and really freak out people. Especially the Israeli's.

Just a thought.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-12-05 10:13|| 2005-12-05 10:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Nice thought, rjschwarz, but as noted by 49pan, there simply is no up side to this equation. Waiting only plays into the Mullah's hands with far worse consequences. Holding off until the successful test of a warhead can only mean that Iran may have already manufactured a dozen of them before then.

.com and myself have been advocating a decap for some time now and ElBaradei's admission that Iran is only "months away" from assembling a device puts paid to any arguments otherwise. Iran's mullahs need to take the dirt nap pronto!

Posted by Zenster 2005-12-05 11:54|| 2005-12-05 11:54|| Front Page Top

#7 I am not suggesting a course of action for the good guys. I'm trying to explain a possible rational for the irrational statements Iran has been making.

From Iran's point of view. (a) they got bombed and thus rally Islamoids to their side as victims also covering up failures to their nuke program. (b) they don't get bombed and they can pretend to have nukes and scare people.

From a USA/Western Civilization point of view I favor (a). Let them play the victim but be damn sure they don't have the bombs.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-12-05 14:27|| 2005-12-05 14:27|| Front Page Top

#8 I favor (a). Let them play the victim but be damn sure they don't have the bombs.

And how on this green earth are we supposed to "make damn sure they don't have the bombs"? ElBaradei, himself, has shown the complete and utter futility of negotiating with Iran. They refuse to be transparent so there is ZERO chance of any sureity regarding self-reporting or inspection scheme.

The only way to be sure Iran does not have any bombs is to wreck their fabrication infrastructure. That delay will provide time for some sort of regime change, preferrably explosive, and then progress to disarmament.

Who gives a rip what the outside Muslim world thinks? They already hate the USA with a passion that will remain unaltered if we take out Iran. Should the mullahs acquire nuclear weapons all bets are off and, compared to an invasion or bombing, the results of them using a single atomic bomb would be far more devastating to the Middle East and Iran itself.

Posted by Zenster 2005-12-05 17:15|| 2005-12-05 17:15|| Front Page Top

#9 SANCTIONS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by bgrebel9 2005-12-05 20:00|| 2005-12-05 20:00|| Front Page Top

#10 commence bombing during El-Baradei's next visit. Islamist first, UN watchdog fourth or fifth down the ladder of priorites. Let him taste the broken containment

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-05 20:55|| 2005-12-05 20:55|| Front Page Top

#11 Don't forget sub-rosa stuff...
Some deniable action is due.

Posted by 3dc 2005-12-05 21:22|| 2005-12-05 21:22|| Front Page Top

#12 deniable? Call it collateral from 1979

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-05 21:57|| 2005-12-05 21:57|| Front Page Top

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