Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Thu 11/18/2004 View Wed 11/17/2004 View Tue 11/16/2004 View Mon 11/15/2004 View Sun 11/14/2004 View Sat 11/13/2004 View Fri 11/12/2004
1
2004-11-18 Europe
Europe planning to rein in imams
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Fred 2004-11-18 10:34:12 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Try hanging a few.
Posted by mojo  2004-11-18 12:21:03 AM||   2004-11-18 12:21:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 You sure the reins go on like that - around the neck? I've saddled horses a few thousand times and our bridle rigs were a little different, lol!
Posted by .com 2004-11-18 12:23:53 AM||   2004-11-18 12:23:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, .com, in certain circumstances, it goes around the neck while horse is underneath.

Then from a distance of 10 ft, you call the equinus sweet names and offer some favored snack.

I forgotten a tree and a thick, strong branch. They are important too, in the grand scheme of things..
Posted by Cornîliës 2004-11-18 12:40:36 AM||   2004-11-18 12:40:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Studying at European universities is not a cure against tyranny, terror, and totalitarianism. Far from it.

For instance, Pol Pot was educated at Sorbonne, which is the main university campus in Paris. Other famous graduates of Sorbonne: Michel Aflaq, father of Baathism; Abimael Guzmán, leader of the Shining Path terrorists in Peru.
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-11-18 1:21:35 AM|| [http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/]  2004-11-18 1:21:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5  Sure, like they'll tell them they can't ride the train one day a year. (Iman's choice) Euros are like Arabs, BIG on talk, little on action.
Posted by 98zulu 2004-11-18 2:38:42 AM||   2004-11-18 2:38:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 These plans presume an awful lot -- like the ability of the imams to read, write and think at the university level... in any language. For too many of them their claim to fame is the rote memorization of the Koran in Arabic, which calls for neither critical thinking skills nor even the ability to understand the sounds emerging from one's mouth. But the very act of requiring formal education indicates that society has standards of behaviour even for these pampered persons, so perhaps there will be some effect (besides seething, I mean).
Posted by trailing wife 2004-11-18 4:00:31 AM||   2004-11-18 4:00:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 
Re #4 (Kalle): Studying at European universities is not a cure against tyranny, terror, and totalitarianism. ... Pol Pot was educated at Sorbonne ....

I wonder how many people have been educated at Sorbonne in the history of that university. I wonder what percent turned out like Pol Pot.
.
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:26:11 AM||   2004-11-18 9:26:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I would suggest the states of western europe work together, as there are substantial economies of scale in University education, and its difficult for a Holland to support the kind of institution envisioned.

The model here would be the Jewish Theological Seminary of Breslau, Germany, and its namesake in New York, which attempted (successfully, IMO) to meld classical Jewish learning (which also involved heavy memorization of texts) with modern Western approaches, and produced Rabbis at home in Western culture. (of course these were created by private Jewish initiative not at the whim of the state. In Russia state attempts were made, with considerably less success)JTS Breslau, IIUC, sent rabbis not only to Germany, but to the Czech lands, Hungary, etc. This reduced the impact in these lands of rabbis educated in the more "backward" yeshivas of poland and Lithuania.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-11-18 9:38:43 AM||   2004-11-18 9:38:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Only one really successfully acted on "turning out like Pol Pot". If you mean "back-to-the-land socialists" who would compell others "for their own good", the indication is a fair percentage.
Posted by Dishman  2004-11-18 10:35:30 AM||   2004-11-18 10:35:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Just goes to show that while something is rotten in Europe, it's not Denmark.
Posted by anonymous2u 2004-11-18 10:50:57 AM||   2004-11-18 10:50:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 thanks Mikey, what insight...
Posted by Frank G  2004-11-18 10:55:09 AM||   2004-11-18 10:55:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Suha went to the Sorbonne.

I went to the University of California, Berkeley.

So there.....
Posted by Alaska Paul  2004-11-18 11:30:52 AM||   2004-11-18 11:30:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 I attended Columbia, Harvard, and the UC--lots of dictator admirers at all three schools. Mr Sylwester, did you not see this at the university you attended as well?
Posted by BMN 2004-11-18 11:36:06 AM||   2004-11-18 11:36:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 The people in need of an education in Europe are the non-Islamic ones who apparently never learned about the Thirty Years War. A shame when a people neglects its own history.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-18 11:37:27 AM||   2004-11-18 11:37:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 It would indeed be a shame if the French neglected their history, since history is all they have now. The EU isn't exactly setting people's souls on fire, and shooting unarmed Africans is hardly the Battle of Austerlitz.
Posted by Onionman 2004-11-18 12:09:34 PM||   2004-11-18 12:09:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 
Re #13 (BMN): Mr Sylwester, did you not see this at the university you attended as well?

I majored in Slavic languages. Everybody I knew was very anti-Communist.

I remember that the biggest group of political radicals were the Iranian students. We had lots of them at the University of Oregon.
.
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:26:35 PM||   2004-11-18 9:26:35 PM|| Front Page Top

00:00 BigEd
23:58 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:56 BigEd
23:52 BigEd
23:46 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:43 BigEd
23:42 CrazyFool
23:39 RWV
23:37 Don
23:34 Sock Puppet of Doom
23:30 BigEd
23:29 Cornîliës
23:28 Cornîliës
23:27 BigEd
23:27 Cornîliës
23:24 Jarhead
23:23 Jarhead
23:21 RWV
23:15 Mark Espinola
23:09 PBMcL
23:08 phil_b
23:05 BigEd
23:04 Carl in N.H.
23:00 Bomb-a-rama









Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com