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2011-11-28 Economy
Ohio Shale Drilling Spurs Job Hopes in Rust Belt
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Posted by Fred 2011-11-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 "It's jus' like th' good ol' days, Clyde. I wants me some uniom..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2011-11-28 00:05||   2011-11-28 00:05|| Front Page Top

#2 >It will mean 350 new jobs in Youngstown, a northeast Ohio city that is struggling with 11 percent unemployment.

More than that! That's just the direct employment. Probably another 100 or so indirect jobs created.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-11-28 00:32||   2011-11-28 00:32|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm sure some lawsuit artist can put a stop to all this nonsense.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-11-28 00:59||   2011-11-28 00:59|| Front Page Top

#4 an artist with money from Soros or the Saudis?
Posted by Water Modem 2011-11-28 01:30||   2011-11-28 01:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Obama has already put a stop to drilling in Wayne National Forest in SE Ohio to placate the eco-wackos in his base. The Obama EPA is also closing coal fired electric plants in Ohio.
Posted by Cincinnatus Chili 2011-11-28 07:29||   2011-11-28 07:29|| Front Page Top

#6 In August, the U.S. Geological Survey said the Marcellus Shale region from New York to Ohio contains some 84 trillion cubic feet of undiscovered, recoverable natural gas, far more than thought nearly a decade ago. Some geologists have put the figure even higher, but those estimates are controversial.

The Utica formation covers much of eastern Ohio and crosses through New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee.

Permits allowing hydraulic fracturing in Ohio's portion of the Marcellus and the deeper Utica Shale have risen from one in 2006, to four in 2009, to at least 32 this year, state records show. Pennsylvania has nearly 3,500 Marcellus wells sunk, most since 2008, and more than 500 permits have been issued this year in West Virginia.

How did all those permits get past the tree-huggers? Were they all focused on the BP spill? Maybe that was the plan!

Environmentalists are critical of the process, which utilizes chemical-laced water and sand to blast deep into the ground and free the shale gas. Critics fear the process itself or the drilling liquid, which can contain carcinogens, could contaminate water supplies, either below ground, by spills, or in disposed wastewater.

I suspect all the fracking occurs well below the drinking water table, certainly so for the deeper Utica formation.

Mark Brownstein, an attorney with the Environmental Defense Fund, said it's up to regulators and drillers to make sure shale industry jobs are created while protecting the environment.

That seems a particularly adult statement.
Posted by Bobby 2011-11-28 07:53||   2011-11-28 07:53|| Front Page Top

#7  Bobby Hello, and yes for your addition. A much larger seam is about 2000 feet down. Something like 8 feet thick. In the same areas. Technology I understand is not able just yet to tap this find.
Posted by Dale 2011-11-28 09:30||   2011-11-28 09:30|| Front Page Top

#8 Meanwhile in Oklahoma another earthquake caused by fracking.
Posted by bman 2011-11-28 10:31||   2011-11-28 10:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Cite, bman? And proof that it was "caused" by fracking?
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-11-28 12:16||   2011-11-28 12:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Comeon bman, everybody knows the quake was caused by global warming.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-11-28 12:27||   2011-11-28 12:27|| Front Page Top

#11 I posted two links related to this subject. The HufF and Puff and Ice age now. They didn't take so I guess it was considered spam. The November 7th quake was determined to be not related to fracking or oil wells. We are in a very active earthquake and volcanic period. Oklahoma city is on top of one shallow quake should we relocate it. The magnetic North Pole has been moving 40km/year towards Moscow. Titanic events are occurring 24/7 under our feet.
Posted by Dale 2011-11-28 12:30||   2011-11-28 12:30|| Front Page Top

#12 I posted two links related to this subject. The HufF and Puff and Ice age now. They didn't take so I guess it was considered spam.

Dale, a great many more articles are submitted than the moderators publish. Rantburg focusses on the War on Terror, with a small admixture of other articles of interest. The articles you summarize are interesting, but not really appropriate for Rantburg, which is why they were not published.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-11-28 14:28||   2011-11-28 14:28|| Front Page Top

#13 Probably another 100 or so indirect jobs created.

A primary industry spins off another 5-10X jobs in the economy.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-11-28 14:36||   2011-11-28 14:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Until after Obean would be reelected, then he'd come down on them.
Posted by gorb 2011-11-28 15:39||   2011-11-28 15:39|| Front Page Top

#15 Voters are going to have to dump this current administration to get out of the dumper and for there to be any real (as opposed to sham green) energy- related jobs.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-11-28 16:13||   2011-11-28 16:13|| Front Page Top

#16 I will say the oil shale boom has sent the price of recreational property through the roof here in Ohio and in parts of Kentucky. Doubled, in some cases. Some people are being paid as much for mineral rights as they paid for their land originally.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-11-28 18:53||   2011-11-28 18:53|| Front Page Top

#17 Rob Crawford yes but also farmland. Good farmland is being purchased at record prices. I know the Japanese were purchasing among other things cemeteries. Food production looks to be the ticket for investment.
Posted by Dale 2011-11-28 21:36||   2011-11-28 21:36|| Front Page Top

#18 "an artist with money from Soros or the Saudis?"

Yes, WM.
Posted by Barbara 2011-11-28 22:13||   2011-11-28 22:13|| Front Page Top

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