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2004-11-24 Europe

Ukraine teeters on 'brink of civil conflict'

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Posted by Fred 2004-11-24 10:58:14 PM|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I think (and hope) they will succeed. Putin backed away from his earlier congratulations of Yanukovich, which implies to me that he's trying to save what can be saved of Russia's relationship with Ukraine. Which means he's afraid Yushchenko can end up president.

Theft of this election was blatant enough, that I think the Ukrainians will manage to win this.

Three weeks ago I had posted this -- though, mind you, it's more of a rant than an essay, and more of a discussion of CIS/EU rather than of Ukraine specifically.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-11-24 12:27:50 AM|| 2004-11-24 12:27:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Let's hope so.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-11-24 4:10:01 AM|| 2004-11-24 4:10:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Ahh, Democracy... ain't it grand? [grin]
I wonder what "Hail to the Theif" is in Ukrainan?
Or better yet, "Selected, not Elected"? [smirk]

Now the Ukrainans can learn about how to plan for the next election.

Posted by N guard 2004-11-24 9:23:21 AM|| 2004-11-24 9:23:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 TGA, was Yushchenko poisoned by Yanukovich's goons? Seems so, from the looks of his godawful new skin condition.

Posted by lex 2004-11-24 1:27:58 PM|| 2004-11-24 1:27:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Definitely poisoned.

Also read this: http://www.jamestown.org/publications_details.php?volume_id=401&issue_id=3098&article_id=2368647

and this:
http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2004/410404.shtml

I like the story about the fake "assassination attempt" on *Yanukovich*, though. Cute.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-11-24 2:09:13 PM|| 2004-11-24 2:09:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 While I believe that Yushchenko won the election, I'm also certain that Yanukovich received a sizable chunk of votes. This may very well have been a close election, though not of the order of the US.

Posted by Rafael 2004-11-24 2:21:50 PM|| 2004-11-24 2:21:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Thanks, Aris.

Rafael, unlike the US, Ukraine truly is deeply divided geographically, and by ethnicity and political orientation as well. It would not be all bad if western Ukraine broke away and formed its own democratic, western-leaning government. Bring it into NATO and eventually the EU.

Posted by lex 2004-11-24 5:01:29 PM|| 2004-11-24 5:01:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Ukraine teeters on 'brink of civil conflict'

"Civil conflict"......it sounds so.....so sanitized.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-11-25 12:00:48 AM|| 2004-11-25 12:00:48 AM|| Front Page Top

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