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2004-11-18 International-UN-NGOs
Genocide out of control yet still the UN refuses to act
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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-18 5:50:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

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Where are you on this genocide, Mr Kofi Annan? Counting your oil-for-food profits?

Do you have any evidence that Kofi Annan has personally profited from the Oil-for-Food Program? Kojo worked for Cotecna, which had a UN contract. That's all your evidence? Anything else at all? That's very weak substance for all your venom.

What do you think the UN should do about Darfur? What is Kofi Annan not doing that you thing he should do?

Serious answers to serious questions would be much more interesting from you than silly demagoguery.

Yes, the UN has structural weaknesses as a body, and, yes, its many members have weaknesses as individual countries, and, yes, many atrocious situations cannot be fixed easily or perhaps at all.

That doesn't mean, though, that all these problems are explained by scare-stories about Kofi Annan's personal greed and corruption.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:44:31 AM||   2004-11-18 9:44:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 It's not Comfy's personal greed that is letting the genocidal Sudanese off the hook, it's his complete and utter ineptitude. And the smirk on his face when he described the invasion of Iraq as 'illegal' didn't inspire much confidence, either.
Posted by Onionman 2004-11-18 10:09:28 AM||   2004-11-18 10:09:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "...Atrocious situations..."

What does atrocious mean?

Now that we have a definition, is a comment on "not being fixed easily" acceptable?
Posted by Jules 187 2004-11-18 10:12:22 AM||   2004-11-18 10:12:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 
Re #2 (Onionman) It's not Comfy's personal greed that is letting the genocidal Sudanese off the hook

I agree with you, Onionman. Thank you for your wise support on that point. Together we can correct many Rantburgers' mistaken opinion about that.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 10:13:04 AM||   2004-11-18 10:13:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 
Re #3 (Jules)
I don't understand your point. Please re-state your comment understandably to me.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 10:14:17 AM||   2004-11-18 10:14:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Mike
Not only were you talking about Kofi, you were talking about the UN-its structure and its value, weren't you?

Yes, the UN has structural weaknesses as a body, and, yes, its many members have weaknesses as individual countries, and, yes, many atrocious situations cannot be fixed easily or perhaps at all. That doesn't mean, though, that all these problems are explained by scare-stories about Kofi Annan's personal greed and corruption.

I think it's important to start the discussion about whether Kofi is a worthy head of an organization by reminding ourselves what the purpose of the UN is; then people can analyze his actions/inactions/words/silences in the context of his role there.
Posted by Jules 187 2004-11-18 10:25:04 AM||   2004-11-18 10:25:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Genocide out of control yet still the UN refuses to act

One question: Have any UN officials called the situation in Sudan genocide?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-11-18 11:02:13 AM||   2004-11-18 11:02:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Bomb-a-rama, no way, they wouldn't want to offend their Sudanese buddies on the UN Human Rights Commission.
Posted by Onionman 2004-11-18 11:08:05 AM||   2004-11-18 11:08:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Is the genocide "out of control," or going according to plan? Remember, this is the UN, in which Cuba, Sudan, Zimbabwe, and Iran are considered legitimate.
Posted by jackal  2004-11-18 12:50:03 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2004-11-18 12:50:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 An organization that allows a dictator to sift 22 billion dollars from the oil for food program, allows countries such as Sudan (who this article is about)and Cuba, and who's primary actions to a crisis is inaction has worse problems then just structural weaknesses as a body. As for Kofi he hasn't been tied directly to the Oil for food scandel yet, but give it time.
Posted by BillH 2004-11-18 1:30:48 PM|| [http://www.worldwar4.net]  2004-11-18 1:30:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 ...UN has failed to grasp urgency of situation in Darfur

Bzzzzt! Wrong! The UN knows exactly what's going on. Anyone who gives the UN ANY credibility is is beyong hope. I honestly think there isn't a more corrupt human organization on the face of the earth.
Posted by Xbalanke  2004-11-18 8:28:47 PM||   2004-11-18 8:28:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 The NEA.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-18 8:39:41 PM||   2004-11-18 8:39:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 
Re #6 (Jules): I think it's important to start the discussion about whether Kofi is a worthy head of an organization by reminding ourselves what the purpose of the UN is; then people can analyze his actions/inactions/words/silences in the context of his role there.

I don't agree with you that that's the best way to start the discussion, but OK, let's start it your way.

Kofi Annan is the UN General Secretary. His main responsibilities are to implement the decisions of the Security Council and to manage the UN's administration.

What decisions of the Security Council do you think he hasn't implemented? Have any members of the Security Council complained about his performance of that mission? To my knowledge, none have.

In particular, with regard to this posted article, the Security Council simply warned Sudan to begin correcting the problems in Darfur.

What's your complaint about his management of the UN's administration? Conservative US Senator Jesse Hemls was so pleased with Kofi Annan's improvements in that area that he arranged for the US Congress to pay up all its dues, which Senator Helms had blocked for many years.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:37:14 PM||   2004-11-18 9:37:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 
Re #10 (BillH): As for Kofi he hasn't been tied directly to the Oil for food scandel yet, but give it time.

He's "tied" to the Oil-for-Food scandal in the sense that it was a program managed by the UN, and he was the General Secretary.

There's no evidence at all that he profited personally or that any of his decisions were motivated by personal profit.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:43:39 PM||   2004-11-18 9:43:39 PM|| Front Page Top

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