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2007-11-17 Great White North

Polish Man Tasered to Death in Olympic City

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Posted by McZoid 2007-11-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Drat, I was hoping that this happened in China! Poor chap.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-17 04:14|| 2007-11-17 04:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Zenster:

I forgot that the last Olympics was boring. Lowest ratings ever. No hotties in the figure skating. Hockey is a dead sport. Downhill racing lost its luster. There were a lot of unsold tickets in Italian venues.

I hate to see someone die unnecessarily. I have never worked in policing or security, but 30 years ago I worked at a rough hotel, and had to toss out low life. I had no trouble taking someone down and dragging them outside. And I never threw a punch. Cops seem to be relying on tasers, rather than using physical force. Maybe in back alleys, but at an airport... The Taser is a great invention. But it should be used in situations just short of cases where armed force is used. I reviewed case law after posting, and I found nothing to suggest that Taser is negligent in any way in training in proper use of their product. However, they can't write Standing Orders of police services.

Youtube views of this video - and there are numerous posts under different categories (taser,Tazer) - are over a million. And there are thousands of Youtube clones. The Euros, Leftists and Disarmers are going to eat this up, and make a decent US company a villian. Damn those cops.

Posted by McZoid 2007-11-17 07:30|| 2007-11-17 07:30|| Front Page Top

#3 throwing things in an airport? Shoot him

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-17 10:16|| 2007-11-17 10:16|| Front Page Top

#4 I saw this on the news last night. They reported this guy was waiting (being held) for 10 hours. Dunno if its true or not.

I feel like that guy 1/2 the time I fly commercial anymore it sucks so bad.

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-11-17 12:37|| 2007-11-17 12:37|| Front Page Top

#5 The Euros, Leftists and Disarmers are going to eat this up, and make a decent US company a villian.

It didn't work for Caterpillar and shouldn't work for Taser either. Frank's on the money. Rowdy down within a mile of any airport or plane and expect to get a big hurt on your sorry butt.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-17 13:23|| 2007-11-17 13:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Hey Frank, I hope this happens to you one day, you stinkin piece of shit.

Posted by Nero Unolurt2869 2007-11-17 13:26|| 2007-11-17 13:26|| Front Page Top

#7 You're right Zen, the Olympics haven't been the same since the end of the Cold War. I haven't even watched the last couple.

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2007-11-17 13:31|| 2007-11-17 13:31|| Front Page Top

#8 There were a total of FOUR mounties involved in this incident. They tasered him right away. Four mounties couldn't physically handle one guy. What a bunch of maroons. I think the RCMP are poorly led, poorly trained and cruelly understaffed. They are certainly losing the respect of the citizens who pay for their services. Like me.

Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2007-11-17 13:34|| 2007-11-17 13:34|| Front Page Top

#9 You're right Zen, the Olympics haven't been the same since the end of the Cold War. I haven't even watched the last couple.

Actually, that was McZ's observation. I can barely remember the last time I paid serious attention to the winter Olympics. Maybe it was Squaw Valley or Grenoble.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-17 14:10|| 2007-11-17 14:10|| Front Page Top

#10 So, Nero Unolurt2869, are you an advocate of people having the legal freedom to hurl things around in airports?

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-17 14:12|| 2007-11-17 14:12|| Front Page Top

#11 thanks Nero :-)

too dumb to recognize tongue-in-cheek? Actually, throwing things in an airport DESERVES a beat-down, idjit. Did I offend you? Were you or your family involved in a similar incident, or are you partial to throwing things in airports? Ima curious at your being so instantly hyper-offended...It's almost Islamic

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-17 14:37|| 2007-11-17 14:37|| Front Page Top

#12 The dude should have been arrested, and by physical takedown and cuffing. Police are there to restore peace, but they have to do it within guidelines.

Posted by McZoid 2007-11-17 14:54|| 2007-11-17 14:54|| Front Page Top

#13 In defence of the police/mounties, it might be a bit difficult to get close enough to a man throwing things, in order to subdue him. Especially if he has a powerful throwing arm or is fairly accurate. What on earth did the reporter's comment that no person was put at risk mean? Was the gentleman throwing socks and crumpled paper, or was he not throwing sharp knives and grenade? Or perhaps he was throwing things on the floor and jumping on them? Were they his own things or chocolates from a nearby shop display?

Even an op-ed piece should not leave out critical information necessary to properly judge the situation.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-11-17 14:59|| 2007-11-17 14:59|| Front Page Top

#14 He was sweating and panting, pacing, threw a computer at a glass wall and then threw a chair.

Looks to me like he was complying with police when they tasered him multiple times while he writhed in pain. You can hear bystanders tell police multiple times that the man does not speak/understand English.

Posted by lotp 2007-11-17 15:28|| 2007-11-17 15:28|| Front Page Top

#15 Sorry, Frank. Your reputation preceded you.

The man is having some sort of psychotic episode for unknown reasons. He picks up a computer and drops it on the floor. He then picks up a chair (or what looks like a small table) to defend himself from the people who he perceives are attacking him, saying "don't approach me", and "I'll sue you". He doesn't physically threaten anybody. At one point he calls out for the police. He certainly does not threaten the police once they get there.

The RCMP takes the lazy way out and they taser him without any attempt to calm him down and dissipate the situation, all within less than 30 seconds of getting at the scene.

After realizing that the man is not breathing, they do not attempt to revive him, but rather just stand around like useless punks.

I hope the man's family gets a nice payout after the civil suit.

Posted by Nero Unolurt2869 2007-11-17 15:55|| 2007-11-17 15:55|| Front Page Top

#16 I hope the man's family gets a nice payout after the civil suit.

I suspect they will given that the Polish government is on their side.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-17 16:13|| 2007-11-17 16:13|| Front Page Top

#17 Why this is in "Opinion"?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-17 16:23|| 2007-11-17 16:23|| Front Page Top

#18 g(r)omgoru:

Videotape evidence is subject to different interpretations. At this point, I would put my views in the column of opinion, because I don't have all the facts. Use of Tasers is a hot issue, and I defend both Taser International's product and their training guidelines.

Posted by McZoid 2007-11-17 16:35|| 2007-11-17 16:35|| Front Page Top

#19 I hope the man's family gets a nice payout after the civil suit

Enough's enough. Group hug for Nero.
Come 'mere, come 'mere you is need teh hug....,
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Posted by Thomas Woof 2007-11-17 17:05|| 2007-11-17 17:05|| Front Page Top

#20 Hi Shipman!

Posted by Nero 2007-11-17 17:45|| 2007-11-17 17:45|| Front Page Top

#21 I think it belong in "Today's Idiot", MZ.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-17 18:08|| 2007-11-17 18:08|| Front Page Top

#22 I hope you get tasered too, grom. Once or twice, or maybe more. Writhing in pain. And much laughter will ensue.

Someone commented in a different forum that this man might have been a high-functioning autistic, judging by his behaviour in the 10 hours prior to his death. He took the instruction to wait at the baggage claim area literally. He waited there for almost 10 hours. When his mother asked airport officials where he was, they told her they didn't know, and then told her he wasn't at the airport, all the while he was in the baggage claim area.

Posted by Nero 2007-11-17 19:10|| 2007-11-17 19:10|| Front Page Top

#23 We hope you get tasered, too, Nero.

Posted by Fred 2007-11-17 20:06|| 2007-11-17 20:06|| Front Page Top

#24 :-) Fred

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-17 20:21|| 2007-11-17 20:21|| Front Page Top

#25 Possibly he was waiting for O.J. to escort him over the velvet ropes?

Posted by Slappy 2007-11-17 20:59|| 2007-11-17 20:59|| Front Page Top

#26 Nero = Zero is begging for a swift kick in the A$$!

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-11-17 22:35|| 2007-11-17 22:35|| Front Page Top

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