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2023-11-14 -Great Cultural Revolution

LA's I-10 freeway could trigger commuter meltdown after fire closed two mile section of road 300,000 use daily

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 Underpass pallet trash piles are so easy to burn.

Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-14 01:26|| 2023-11-14 01:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Let's see how bad Gavin and his buddy Pete Ballgag can screw this up. Maybe they'll decide to replace the freeway with high speed rail.

Posted by ed in texas 2023-11-14 08:31|| 2023-11-14 08:31|| Front Page Top

#3 A bridge structure of that era was heavily reinforced with mild rebar rather than new post-tensioned systems. It may still be usable

Posted by Frank G 2023-11-14 08:55|| 2023-11-14 08:55|| Front Page Top

#4 Newsom has his pecker in a wringer this time. He's trying to blame an unknown arsonist and the lessee who he calls a "bad actor".

From KTLA:

“This guy and this organization, whoever the members of that particular organization are, have been bad actors,” Newsom said. “We’ve been in a litigious posture for some time. They stopped paying their rent, they’re out of compliance, and as was stated yesterday … they have been subleasing this site to at least five, maybe as many as six tenants, without authorization from Caltrans or authorization from our federal partners.”

He can rely on the media to cover for him but think about what he says here. The state has been in a "litigious posture" with the lessee for some time. OK. But for that entire time the state's efforts to clean up the hazardous situation that was known to exist under the bridge were feeble and ineffective. The fire happened on state property on Newsom's watch. It's his responsibility. He has no one else to blame.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-11-14 11:46|| 2023-11-14 11:46|| Front Page Top

#5 All Cali's biggest fires happen mostly on state property and spill over to destroy private property.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-11-14 12:04|| 2023-11-14 12:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Did you ever notice that when you have communists you always have 'wreckers'?

Posted by ed in texas 2023-11-14 13:30|| 2023-11-14 13:30|| Front Page Top

#7 C'mon, everybody knows it was set by a MAGA operative...

Posted by Glenmore 2023-11-14 13:46|| 2023-11-14 13:46|| Front Page Top

#8 Yeah, it was hammer boy from Pelosi's house!

Posted by Silentbrick 2023-11-14 13:57|| 2023-11-14 13:57|| Front Page Top

#9 3-5 week shutdown and repairs

Posted by Frank G 2023-11-14 14:07|| 2023-11-14 14:07|| Front Page Top

#10 Just close your eyes and think of Newsom.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-11-14 14:20|| 2023-11-14 14:20|| Front Page Top

#11 And now a second overpass burns, I-10 and I-105.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2023-11-14 17:25|| 2023-11-14 17:25|| Front Page Top

#12 RE #9:
additional testing on concrete and rebar showed better-than-anticipated structural integrity of the freeway deck.

As Frank G suggested earlier, the old-school construction seems to have held up better than more modern techniques. Like that bridge designed by girls, a perfectly lovely bridge mind you, that fell down awhile back while they were tensioning it. During morning rush hour.

Bass insisted there was no initial information that would link the fire to homeless people in the area, and she urged the public not to jump to that conclusion.

Fire under an overpass. Homeless people camping under an overpass. No information information at this point in time linking events together. Definitely don't want to jump to conclusions. But if they are lying at your feet, you might at least consider them.

Posted by SteveS 2023-11-14 17:44|| 2023-11-14 17:44|| Front Page Top

#13 This is California. The permitting process will be a bad joke. The lawsuits haven't even started yet.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-11-14 17:58|| 2023-11-14 17:58|| Front Page Top

#14 Like that bridge designed by girls, a perfectly lovely bridge mind you, that fell down awhile back while they were tensioning it. During morning rush hour.

I don't know the designer team's makeup but you NEVER tension/retension over live traffic unless on 150% capacity falsework shoring. My local bridge engineering staff was sick of getting this drilled in by the time I retired

Posted by Frank G 2023-11-14 19:21|| 2023-11-14 19:21|| Front Page Top

#15 California Gov. Gavin Newsom reveals huge fire that ripped across Los Angeles' I-10 was ARSON and freeway will be closed for up to FIVE WEEKS - sparking travel nightmare for workers

Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-14 21:56|| 2023-11-14 21:56|| Front Page Top

#16 Or, not arson.
Spin the cover.

Massive Homeless Encampment Fire Shuts Down Los Angeles Freeway Indefinitely

Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-14 22:44|| 2023-11-14 22:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Is anyone really homeless out here? Have to work pretty hard at that.

From Gaza, La Paz, or Kinshasa
You roam for your cause or your raza.
Salaam and shalom
In the twilight's last gloam,
Y siéntanse como en casa!

Posted by Black Bart Bourbon8690 2023-11-14 23:12|| 2023-11-14 23:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Or whatever. Dang Mexican.

Posted by Black Bart Bourbon8690 2023-11-14 23:16|| 2023-11-14 23:16|| Front Page Top

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