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2008-11-13 Home Front Economy

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Posted by tipper 2008-11-13 01:32|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 ION CORN, see TOPIX > THE END OF ETHANOL?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-11-13 01:41|| 2008-11-13 01:41|| Front Page Top

#2 OOPSIES, forgot RIGHTWINGNEWS > DEMOCRATS WHOM HATE THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE FIGHT TO BAILOUT THE BIG AUTOMAKERS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-11-13 01:44|| 2008-11-13 01:44|| Front Page Top

#3 The Corn Isn't Green

Green in this context being the colour of Islam?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-11-13 01:58|| 2008-11-13 01:58|| Front Page Top

#4 There is a way for Corn making a dramatic contribution to reducing US dependecy on oil.

1) Use it for producing bourbon.
2) People drink the bourbon
3) People are now under influence so they can't drive
4) If they don't drive, they don't use oil.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-11-13 05:16|| 2008-11-13 05:16|| Front Page Top

#5 Article makes my point, but who are the 'vocal group of neoconservatives'? Farmers?
Ethanol has always been a liberal agenda.

Posted by logi_cal 2008-11-13 07:33|| 2008-11-13 07:33|| Front Page Top

#6 That mission was accomplished. Iowa, apparently, can now go scratch.

Posted by Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2008-11-13 08:08|| 2008-11-13 08:08|| Front Page Top

#7 JFM, I regret to say that drinking does NOT prevent people from getting behind the wheel and driving. Here in Wisconsin, we have probably the nation's highest drinking culture, and the accident rates to prove it.

I would love to see a better public transportation system for commuters and shoppers. Unfortunately, the people promoting rail around here have zero grasp of economics, a touching faith in ethanol, and way too much political dogma to make the system work.

Posted by mom">mom 2008-11-13 10:19|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-11-13 10:19|| Front Page Top

#8 The article completely ignores the fact that diesel engined cars and trucks use roghly i/2 to 1/3 as much as a similar gasoline burner.

It's so slanted it's not at all reliable, it's a hit piece for alcohol and facts be damned.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-11-13 11:13|| 2008-11-13 11:13|| Front Page Top

#9 I understand the article but the one thing it doesn't touch on is bio-diesal.

As I understood it bio-diesal is a lot easier to produce than "bio-gasoline" and doesn't require as many changes to engines.

If that is true wouldn't that have a bigger impact on the issue?

Posted by AlanC 2008-11-13 11:13|| 2008-11-13 11:13|| Front Page Top

#10 Here in Wisconsin, we have probably the nation's highest drinking culture

Interesting choice of words. The brandy Manhattan is high drinking culture? (I say this with great affection to my Wisconsin roots.)

Posted by Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2008-11-13 11:18|| 2008-11-13 11:18|| Front Page Top

#11 Grenter, perhaps 'Wisconsin culture often focuses around drinking, and we have one of the highest incidences of public drunkenness and drunken driving'.

Because yes, the quantity of say, Boonsefarm or Beast imbibed here on a regular basis does not exactly lend itself to high culture. ;)

However, as a Wisconsinite with good taste, I would like salute JFM's suggestion of more Bourbon. As you say sir, an excellent use of corn.

Posted by sjb 2008-11-13 13:19|| 2008-11-13 13:19|| Front Page Top

#12 AlanC from what I have read biodiesel can run in a modern diesel engine with no alterantions of the engine at all. The only issue is that in cold weather some folks need to either cut the biodiesel wtih regular diesel to prevent freezing and/or install a pre-heater in the engine to get it going when things are cold.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-11-13 13:37|| 2008-11-13 13:37|| Front Page Top

#13 Those would not be issues for a large part of the nation for most of the year.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-11-13 13:37|| 2008-11-13 13:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Petroleum diesel becomes too viscous in the cold, too. My mother had a diesel in Buffalo, NY some years ago, and had real problems in winter with it.

Posted by trailing wife 2008-11-13 20:22|| 2008-11-13 20:22|| Front Page Top

#15 I know a fix for the winter diesel viscosity problem.

Some years back, filling up I happened to see a Diesel Oldsmobile pull up to the regular gas pump and start pumping, I (of course ) shouted to the drivr he was at the wrong pump, he replied "I know, I always put 2 gallons of regular per fillup, it helps the engine start easier"

Figuring that wasn't healthy for the engine, I asked him how long he'd ben doing that, he answered "for the last 600,000 miles".

Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-11-13 20:43|| 2008-11-13 20:43|| Front Page Top

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