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2023-11-07 -Land of the Free
The federal government ‐ which owns most of this land ‐ is determined to move from a "use and let use" system of accessing Western public lands to a permission-based system that will mean reservations, permits, and closures.
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Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-11-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top
 File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats 

#1 So basically, only wealthy and loyal democrat donators will be allowed to use the land?
Posted by  Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2023-11-07 01:41||   2023-11-07 01:41|| Front Page Top

#2 The federal government owns ALL the land. There are no freeholds in the US. Try not paying your property taxes and find out
Posted by Slenter Panda4300 2023-11-07 07:33||   2023-11-07 07:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Permitted use is a bad idea.
During the pandemic you had t get a permit to DRIVE into the Rocky Mtn Forrest. It was a mess.
Posted by Ebbuger Whuque4103 2023-11-07 09:06||   2023-11-07 09:06|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Cholutle Thrans9751 2023-11-07 09:34||   2023-11-07 09:34|| Front Page Top

#5 How very English.

King's Speech confirms Government crackdown on leasehold property regime
Posted by Skidmark 2023-11-07 09:51||   2023-11-07 09:51|| Front Page Top

#6 Maybe another shot as gas-powered vehicles. WIll EVs get favored treatment?
Posted by Bobby 2023-11-07 10:31||   2023-11-07 10:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Mostly about control, taxes, and more bureaucracy.
Posted by Bobby 2023-11-07 11:42||   2023-11-07 11:42|| Front Page Top

#8 WIll EVs get favored treatment?

The EVs wouldn't last very long on some of the roads/trails mentioned.

Too heavy, low ground clearance and not enough 'juice'.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-11-07 11:55||   2023-11-07 11:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Over 500 million acres are owned by the Federal Govt west of the Mississippi. About the equivalent of the states of Alaska and Texas combined.

Bureau of Land Management, Fish and Wildlife Service, National Park Service, Forest Service and Dept of Defense each manage a lot of land.

It has been obvious for many years that it would be best if the Federal Govt sold a lot of this.
Posted by lord garth 2023-11-07 13:41||   2023-11-07 13:41|| Front Page Top

#10 RV camped in the Moab/Arches area recently. Very popular place for off-road folks and their families. This will not go over well. More of the same elitist crap.
Posted by Cured Romantic  2023-11-07 13:46||   2023-11-07 13:46|| Front Page Top

#11 Let them try to enforce it. Big, empty remote territory is big, empty and remote, just sayin'.
Posted by Nero 2023-11-07 14:11||   2023-11-07 14:11|| Front Page Top

#12 It has been obvious for many years that it would be best if the Federal Govt sold a lot of this.

It would be best to turn it over to the sovereign states its in. Let them sell it.

Could you imagine the outrage if the Feds decreed that anywhere outside of the original 13 states, that when a person dies, their land reverts back to the national government.
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-11-07 14:24||   2023-11-07 14:24|| Front Page Top

#13 If the Feds can't identify a national need for the property, it should revert to the States
Posted by Frank G 2023-11-07 18:12||   2023-11-07 18:12|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm a long-time foe and critic of the BLM. (In fact, I'm a co-litigant in a lawsuit against them right now.) The solution to the problem of the BLM is a simple one: devolution to the states. They need to be disbanded as a federal agency, state agencies need to be established, and all of their personnel and property need to be transferred to those newly established agencies.

At this point in history the BLM exists to keep rural Americans poor. Sixty three percent of my state (Nevada) is owned by the Bureau of Land Management; 85.9 percent is owned by the federal government in total. Nobody in DC cares about what happens to Nevadans - except maybe for the people who live within the city limits of Las Vegas. As a state we are rich in only one thing: land. And that's controlled by an agency that doesn't care about us, isn't answerable to us as a polity, and has no incentive to do anything that benefits us whatsoever.
Posted by Secret Master 2023-11-07 18:53||   2023-11-07 18:53|| Front Page Top

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