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2009-11-05 
12 Dead, Shooter Alive, 31 Wounded Ft. Hood (info added)
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Posted by Sherry 2009-11-05 10:38|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 Amish?
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 16:11||   2009-11-05 16:11|| Front Page Top

#2 A serious question for military/NRA RBers - when the media (or others) mentions "high powered rifle", what do they mean? What does it really mean?

I had a BB gun long ago, and pop-in-law recalls Mausers in WWII, so I suspect it is more toward the latter, but just wonder.
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2009-11-05 16:42||   2009-11-05 16:42|| Front Page Top

#3 It certainly doesn't seem as though it was some soldier who went sideways. Two shooters.
Posted by remoteman 2009-11-05 16:45||   2009-11-05 16:45|| Front Page Top

#4 3 shooters it appears
Posted by Marilyn Sheasing8525 2009-11-05 16:54||   2009-11-05 16:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Are we looking at "sudden" Jihad Syndrome?
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-11-05 16:57||   2009-11-05 16:57|| Front Page Top

#6 I pray to G-D to rest the souls of the lost and comfort their families.

this is tragedy of the worst sort. i do not trust the FBI to give us straight facts on this.
Posted by abu do you love ">abu do you love  2009-11-05 16:57||   2009-11-05 16:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Fox is reporting 12 dead and 31 injured. 3 suspects - one killed by local police, 2 in custody.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 17:15||   2009-11-05 17:15|| Front Page Top

#8 The shooter was killed and two other suspects were in custody.
Posted by Sherry">Sherry  2009-11-05 17:16||   2009-11-05 17:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Sean Hannity has just reported the main shooter is Major Malik Hassan... LOOK OUT!
Posted by BigEd 2009-11-05 17:22||   2009-11-05 17:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Sleeper?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-11-05 17:24||   2009-11-05 17:24|| Front Page Top

#11 Waco news is also reporting Malique Hassan is the primary shooters; two others in custody.

Posted by JohnQC 2009-11-05 17:25||   2009-11-05 17:25|| Front Page Top

#12 From ABC: The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack
Posted by Sherry">Sherry  2009-11-05 17:26||   2009-11-05 17:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Yup, I understand Malik is `meeting his virgins`...
Posted by BigEd 2009-11-05 17:27||   2009-11-05 17:27|| Front Page Top

#14 A serious question for military/NRA RB'ers - when the media (or others) mentions "high powered rifle", what do they mean? What does it really mean?

It means a standard military rifle, anything from a M1 to a M-16 there's all kinds of different rifles on a Military base, as for the "High Powered" that's a reporter showing heir ignorance, There are NO Low-powered Military rifles , perhaps a .22 for training but 99% would be what we RB'ers would call a ordinary standard rifle, meaning whatever you'd hunt deer with, .223,762x35 30-06 (Don't emember he military designation 7.62x54 or something like that.)
Figure that to a reporter if it can kill it's "HIGH POWERED".
Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-11-05 17:34||   2009-11-05 17:34|| Front Page Top

#15 Fox news now reporting Hassan is from Virginia and is a recent convert to Islam.

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 17:39||   2009-11-05 17:39|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm shocked! A muslim?

Question. In WWII did the US Army accept Germans and Japanese citizens as soldiers?

Why then do we 1. Accept members of a group that have declared war on the US and 2. Even allow these folks in the country?

Furthermore, If I tell the Army I'm gay and I want to serve they turn me down. I suspect we should start thinking about muzzies the same way.

My guess is with barack HUSSEIN obama we won't be seeing that though.

Just amazing to me.
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 17:44||   2009-11-05 17:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Oh I'm not actually gay - not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 17:45||   2009-11-05 17:45|| Front Page Top

#18 Thanks Redneck Jim. Interesting now that the news is reporting that handguns were used - I expect those count as "high powered rifles" to most of the media unfamiliar with the rudiments.
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2009-11-05 17:47||   2009-11-05 17:47|| Front Page Top

#19 Fox just said 3 shooters.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2009-11-05 17:48||   2009-11-05 17:48|| Front Page Top

#20 I would guess it's time for the CAIR folks to start defending the imam who did the converting and pointing out the isolated incident aspect.
Posted by Muggsy Glink 2009-11-05 17:49||   2009-11-05 17:49|| Front Page Top

#21 Proposed new UCMJ Regulation: Islam is incompatible with military service. Being a Muslim or converting to Islam shall be afforded the same assumptions and treatment as a declaration of conscientious objection.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2009-11-05 17:50||   2009-11-05 17:50|| Front Page Top

#22 Disgusting listening to the radio (MSNBC's Chris Matthews) dance around every possible explanation except islam. Took him long enough even to identify one of the shooters (Hasan) and sounded like some producer had his balls in a vice to force him to identify the murderer as "Arabic sounding" and then subsequently referred to the islamic mass murderer only as "Major". Spit.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 17:50||   2009-11-05 17:50|| Front Page Top

#23 sleeper? ucmj to ban muslims? it's time like these when we see the people who will jump to the conclusions in order to support their instincts to hate those who are different. get a life, keep your comments to yourself and pray for the victims rather than expose your prejudice.
Posted by Hupereck Grundy2737 2009-11-05 17:56||   2009-11-05 17:56|| Front Page Top

#24 Ed, Shep Smith on FoxNews is just as bad, IMO. He's refusing to say the name until confirmed by Pentagon sources, but I would bet the farm he'd have no problem if he thought the name was "John Doe" or "Joe Smith". Shep needs to find employment at MSNBC or CNN. They're more 'his kind' over there.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 17:57||   2009-11-05 17:57|| Front Page Top

#25 
On Fox News Shep is refusing to name the shooter. I hate that guy pu$$y, he doesn't belong on Fox News. Fire him and give his time slot to Glenn Beck
Posted by Parabellum 2009-11-05 17:58|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]">[http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]  2009-11-05 17:58|| Front Page Top

#26 UPDATE: Witness described it as a methodical execution with 2 handguns. It was PREPLANNED. He hit soldiers about to DEPLOY.

A mohammedean terrorist attack.

May god be with our soldiers and their families.
Posted by A_Rovian_Disciple 2009-11-05 18:09||   2009-11-05 18:09|| Front Page Top

#27 Hupereck Grundy2737: "Different"? How infidelishly stupid of you to play the Rodney King card in the face of 12 dead and 31 injured by a recent convert to islam.
Posted by Muggsy Glink 2009-11-05 18:14||   2009-11-05 18:14|| Front Page Top

#28 Apparantly according to our well informed media ""high powered rifle" means two handguns. Go figure.
Posted by rjschwarz 2009-11-05 18:15||   2009-11-05 18:15|| Front Page Top

#29 I guess its high time to ban guns on Military bases...

/SARC

How about we ban Islamics instead?

May God be with the soldier's families and with the wounded soldiers.
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-11-05 18:17||   2009-11-05 18:17|| Front Page Top

#30 Bambi: "We're going to stay on this".

Dear God in heaven, we have an IDIOT for president!
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 18:18||   2009-11-05 18:18|| Front Page Top

#31 Our well informed media have the resources to fact check unlike bloggers
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 18:19||   2009-11-05 18:19|| Front Page Top

#32 Hasan is a doctor. Some kind of mental health physician. I googled him.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 18:20||   2009-11-05 18:20|| Front Page Top

#33 Hey - give him a break it takes time to get the makeup on, cameras positioned just right to show how great he is, and have his mirror polished. Not to mention the teleprompter.....

And I hear military bases are 'no gun zones' aready (according to a different thread...). Who knew...

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-11-05 18:21||   2009-11-05 18:21|| Front Page Top

#34 Make that 'was' a doctor. As someone pointed out earlier, he's with his 72 raisins now.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 18:21||   2009-11-05 18:21|| Front Page Top

#35 Wouldn't that explain the rank of Major?
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 18:21||   2009-11-05 18:21|| Front Page Top

#36 In WWII did the US Army accept Germans and Japanese citizens as soldiers?

Yes. My mother's first husband got his parents and siblings out of Germany to Australia. He then joined the US Navy as a medic in order to get them to the States and put himself in line for US citizenship... and fought all the way up the Pacific as a medic, despite being an avowed pacifist. On the other hand, he was a German Jew, which may have weighed on his acceptance -- I have absolutely no idea.

Back on topic: lotp has spoken from personal experience of Muslim officers and enlisted who are loyal to America regardless of its status as a kafir nation. There are plenty of American Muslims, who do not hold with that old-country fanatic kufr-hatred.

Oddly enough, the NPR Pentagon reporter had absolutely no problem saying the murderer's name. Some of the NPR reporters are very good indeed, as are some at the New York Times. Hopefully the good ones will find their feet when the propagandists get swept away.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-11-05 18:23||   2009-11-05 18:23|| Front Page Top

#37 Leadership failure at the very top. Have we learned nothing from the incidents involving US Army Chaplain Captain and GITMO activist James Yee or grenade murderer Sgt. Asan Akbar?

We are STILL in denial with regard to Islam.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 18:32||   2009-11-05 18:32|| Front Page Top

#38 Japanese-Americans served with distinction in the famous 442 Infantry Regiment, in Europe. They were an elite fighting unit.
Posted by A_Rovian_Disciple 2009-11-05 18:32||   2009-11-05 18:32|| Front Page Top

#39 #23 sleeper? ucmj to ban muslims? it's time like these when we see the people who will jump to the conclusions in order to support their instincts to hate those who are different. get a life, keep your comments to yourself and pray for the victims rather than expose your prejudice.
Posted by Hupereck Grundy2737

Hey there, Hupereck, are you just an idiot or a WH troll? Maybe volunteering to adopt a few of the "Religion of Peace" participants? By all means, be my guest. I really, really would not like to be killed by one of these a$$holes, but encourage you to "take one for the team"....maroon......
Posted by Uncle Phester 2009-11-05 18:34||   2009-11-05 18:34|| Front Page Top

#40 Fox news now reporting Hassan is from Virginia and is a recent convert to Islam.

Definitely Arab by his pic on ABC News. Said attended Damascus and maybe Jordan University.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 18:37||   2009-11-05 18:37|| Front Page Top

#41 Diversity, multiculturalism, tollerance, educational scholarships for foreigners, direct military commissioning, Sikh turbans for all.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 18:42||   2009-11-05 18:42|| Front Page Top

#42 The two suspects arrested shortly after the shooting have been released, according to the office of U.S. Rep. John Carter, R-Round Rock, whose district includes Fort Hood.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 18:43||   2009-11-05 18:43|| Front Page Top

#43 Fox is reporting that he was a shrink.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-11-05 18:44||   2009-11-05 18:44|| Front Page Top

#44 Definitely Arab by his pic on ABC News. Said attended Damascus and maybe Jordan University.

Yeah, it was Kay Bailey Hutchison who was speculating earlier about him being from Virginia and being a recent convert. I still haven't forgiven her for her role in the illegal 'amnesty' vote a few years ago, so I ignore her whenever possible.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 18:48||   2009-11-05 18:48|| Front Page Top

#45 ...foreign citizens...

I didn't know foreign citizens of countrie we were at war with were in the military in WWII. I knew there were people of Japanese and German ancestry but not citizens in the military. Seems dangerous.
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 18:50||   2009-11-05 18:50|| Front Page Top

#46 Question. In WWII did the US Army accept Germans and Japanese citizens as soldiers?

You never read "Born American, but in the wrong place". I'll bet Malik's ancestors were born in America going back at least 8 generations. But I don't think he was an American. It's a state of mind. A core of firmly held beliefs that make an American, not a birthplace or an accent.

40% of Americans are German, if you think country of origin is important. In WWII Germans were allowed to fight. Some had names like Eisenhower, Eichleburger, and Nimitz, to name a few. We even let Baron von Steuben fight in the War of Independence.

The 442 RCT is the most highly decorated military unit in the history of the United States Armed Forces, including 21 Medal of Honor recipients, earning the nickname “The Purple Heart Battalion”.

Yeah, Americans from Germany, Italy and Japan fought the fascist powers in WWII.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-11-05 18:53||   2009-11-05 18:53|| Front Page Top

#47 Just my 2c, but a lot of this shit seems to be related to "recent converts".
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2009-11-05 18:58||   2009-11-05 18:58|| Front Page Top

#48 Weapons availability are governed by battalion SOP.

My understanding of US Army regulations, all personal weapons and ammunition are kept by the company or battalion supply sergeant, don't really remember, and are immediately available on request.

So, it's not completely true US Army posts are weapons free. but they are tightly controlled.

It has always been this way for soldiers, enlisted ( I suspect ) officers, billeted at the post.
Posted by badanov 2009-11-05 19:02|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-11-05 19:02|| Front Page Top

#49 Per a source to Fox: the shooter got a lousy efficiency report while at Walter-Reed, followed shortly by his assignment to Hood and selection for deployment.
Posted by lotp 2009-11-05 19:05||   2009-11-05 19:05|| Front Page Top

#50 On the other hand, there weren't a lot of Nazi party members in the U. S. Military.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-11-05 19:14||   2009-11-05 19:14|| Front Page Top

#51 Bad OER.... and still gets promoted to Major? I know the promotion stats for MAJ and LTC are in the wildly unbelieveable 90% and above range, but I just may be writing to my congressman and asking for an investigation into the Medical Promotion Board that pushed THAT one on through.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 19:15||   2009-11-05 19:15|| Front Page Top

#52 There are plenty of American Muslims, who do not hold with that old-country fanatic kufr-hatred.

And as we've seen today, it only takes one that does.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 19:18||   2009-11-05 19:18|| Front Page Top

#53 Regarding German and Japanese US Troops,
the whole idea was the People could NOT serve against their home nation, Germans in the Pacific, and Japanese in Europe for example, no Germans in Europe and no Japanese in he Pacific theaters..
Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-11-05 19:24||   2009-11-05 19:24|| Front Page Top

#54 I wonder how many "MAJ Nadal's" the USN has aboard our nuclear subs or the USAF has at Cheyenne Mountain or in our Nuclear Capable Squadrons? Rules? Restrictions? Prohibitions?

Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 19:25||   2009-11-05 19:25|| Front Page Top

#55 Sounds like we should start looking at those prohibitions.
Posted by Hellfish 2009-11-05 19:28||   2009-11-05 19:28|| Front Page Top

#56  I wonder how many "MAJ Nadal's" the USN has aboard our nuclear subs or the USAF has at Cheyenne Mountain or in our Nuclear Capable Squadrons? Rules? Restrictions? Prohibitions?

Dude, get a grip.

It takes a lot more than a single screw-up to launch nukes...
Posted by badanov 2009-11-05 19:28|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-11-05 19:28|| Front Page Top

#57 Don't "Dude" me you twit. It only took one to kill 11 and wound dozens. How much of a "grip" do you want.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 19:30||   2009-11-05 19:30|| Front Page Top

#58 The 442nd were composed of second and third generation sons who were born here. Nor did they profess loyalty to the Emperor.

And AFAICR, Nazis weren't, and still aren't, allowed in the US Military.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 19:32||   2009-11-05 19:32|| Front Page Top

#59 Redneck Jim

That's not correct. There WERE quite a few German born US troops fighting all over Europe in 1944 and 1945.

I happen to know a few of them.
Posted by European Conservative 2009-11-05 19:36||   2009-11-05 19:36|| Front Page Top

#60 My point is that it is silly to get worked up about nukes which have so many safeties and interlocks it is literally impossible for a single individual or even a small group to deploy one in anger.

And Beosoeker: That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me on rantburg all day.
Posted by badanov 2009-11-05 19:37|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-11-05 19:37|| Front Page Top

#61 I was gonna puke if this guy's cousin said he "is a good American" one more time. I don't care if he was born here, and I don't care if he joined the military....if you shoot 40 some fellow soldiers for no damn reason, you are not a good American.

BTW, it was all those nasty people picking on him about how Arabs were yucky, too. I guess he shoulda seen a shrink to help him deal with that. Delicate flower and all that.
Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2009-11-05 19:38||   2009-11-05 19:38|| Front Page Top

#62 Fox's Shep got Hasan's cousin on the phone. The cousin said Hasan was born here. He went to school here. Graduated from Virginia Tech. The cousin said Hasan wanted out of the military. He didn't even like to go to the shooting range. The cousin said Hasan has been a muslim all his life.

He was a very proficient shooter for someone who didn't even like to go to the shooting range.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-11-05 19:41||   2009-11-05 19:41|| Front Page Top

#63 The cousin said Hasan wanted out of the military.

The cousin also said this change in attitude occurred shortly after 9/11/01.
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 19:44||   2009-11-05 19:44|| Front Page Top

#64 Apparently the major was about to be posted to Iraq. Instapundit has some good links to a couple of sites that are closely following the story; he posted at 3:49 pm and at 6:49 pm, so scroll down to get the earlier round-up.
Posted by trailing wife 2009-11-05 19:45||   2009-11-05 19:45|| Front Page Top

#65 well, I'm glad he didn't live to have to suffer the PTSD for his evil act. Burn in hell F*ck
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-11-05 19:46||   2009-11-05 19:46|| Front Page Top

#66 Just heard on Fox the Congressman John Carter says that another suspect was taken into custody, AFTER the other two suspects were released.

This is starting to seem like a recruited "Agent" to me. Scary stuff.
Posted by Charles 2009-11-05 19:50||   2009-11-05 19:50|| Front Page Top

#67 Again, we've simply GOT to get a handle on this NOW and identify and discharge these worthless pieces of kak. This is NOT the first of these murderous incidents involving US soldiers.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 19:54||   2009-11-05 19:54|| Front Page Top

#68 The military briefing has been on hold for a long time. There have been people that have said there were both pistol and rifle shots from different locations. There are often many rumors in something like this. Firearms are well-controlled on a military base. How did this guy get the handguns on base? How would he kill 11 and wound 31? Not so easy to hit someone with a handgun while they are moving You'd think he would have been taken out sooner. Were these people grouped up: Other reports said Hasan had targeted certain people.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-11-05 19:56||   2009-11-05 19:56|| Front Page Top

#69 If you've got a pistol in both hands with 14 round capacities, in a crowded room, and catch your targets at close range totally by surprise..... anything is possible. Thank God there were not more killed.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 19:59||   2009-11-05 19:59|| Front Page Top

#70 McCaul says suspect had special training in shooting, parents hailed from Jordan
US. Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin, who has been briefed on the shootings at Fort Hood, said one suspect, Nadal Malik Hasan, was a physician who was born in Virginia to parents who hailed from Jordan.

Hasan, McCaul said, “took a lot of advanced training in shooting.” He said he’s not sure why.

McCaul said he also has been told that Hasan had undergone rehabilitative alcohol counseling.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 20:00||   2009-11-05 20:00|| Front Page Top

#71 It is so typically Islamic to kill others in this cowardly way. The bastard methodically executes those he has 'issues' with -- unarmed souls with little chance of defending themselves in a meaningful way. Had he not been killed, the POS most likely would have taken the coward's way out and killed himself. SPIT!
Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 20:01||   2009-11-05 20:01|| Front Page Top

#72 “It’s clear this was a coordinated attack,” McCaul said
Sounds like Rep. McCaul believes there is more than one shooter.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 20:03||   2009-11-05 20:03|| Front Page Top

#73 Hasan, McCaul said, "took a lot of advanced training in shooting." He said he's not sure why

Wonder if he was also pursuing a private pilots license but cutting classes dealing with landings?
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 20:04||   2009-11-05 20:04|| Front Page Top

#74 Were these people grouped up: Other reports said Hasan had targeted certain people.

News reports said it was some kind of graduation ceremony for troops who had completed college degrees while deployed. Doubt Hasan knew any of them.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 20:05||   2009-11-05 20:05|| Front Page Top

#75 A shooting suspect at Fort Hood has been identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. He had previously been reported as Malik Nadal Hasan.
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 20:09||   2009-11-05 20:09|| Front Page Top

#76 Virginia Board of Medicine: Nidal Malik Hasan, MD
Posted by ed 2009-11-05 20:13||   2009-11-05 20:13|| Front Page Top

#77 The MSM is so conflicted about this story. First, they are so PC about Muslims. Second, they never saw a firearm they liked. They are having trouble dancing around this story.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-11-05 20:15||   2009-11-05 20:15|| Front Page Top

#78 He could have caught dozens shopping at the PX. Hasan knew these brave soldiers had just returned from service in Theater. That was his message. Now, lets find out who he was working for or if it was simply an isolated act of standard Muslim hatred.
Posted by Besoeker  2009-11-05 20:17||   2009-11-05 20:17|| Front Page Top

#79 My point is that it is silly to get worked up about nukes which have so many safeties and interlocks it is literally impossible for a single individual or even a small group to deploy one in anger.

Really? Tell that to these people:

link

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-11-05 20:19||   2009-11-05 20:19|| Front Page Top

#80 Per the Virginia Board of Medicine link (thanks Ed) Dr. Hasan is not board certified in psychiatry, or in anything. His psychiatry practice comes from his interest in the field.

So, Uniformed Schools as a med school (good), military residency (good), but not board certified (hmmm). Poor fitness report (not good), in Texas because he was pushed out of Walter Reed (guessing but a good guess).

Strikes me as a struggling MD. IMO, of course.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 20:42||   2009-11-05 20:42|| Front Page Top

#81 Really? Tell that to these people:

I totally agree. The US Navy must immediately put into place plans to prevent peace protesters from launching nukes.

Thanks for proving my point for me.
Posted by badanov 2009-11-05 20:43|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-11-05 20:43|| Front Page Top

#82 According to ABC News, Dr. Hasan completed a residency in psychiatry and then was a fellow at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress (website down right now). Don't know whether that was a certification program or not.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 20:46||   2009-11-05 20:46|| Front Page Top

#83 So -- how long should it be before our CIC shows up at Ft. Hood?
Posted by Sherry">Sherry  2009-11-05 20:48||   2009-11-05 20:48|| Front Page Top

#84 And now I get into the CSTS website. They're part of the Uniformed School and serve as an academic unit dedicated to treatment and research in traumatic stress disorders with an emphasis on military personnel. Started up in 1987; all sorts of programs.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 20:49||   2009-11-05 20:49|| Front Page Top

#85 Per ABC News, Hasan was shot by a civilian uniformed police officer. One officer (the one who shot him or a different one) was among the people killed. ABC says clearly that he had accomplices.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 20:51||   2009-11-05 20:51|| Front Page Top

#86 Here's the link to Hasan's profile (very brief) at CSTS.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 20:52||   2009-11-05 20:52|| Front Page Top

#87 From the This Ain't Hell blog, here is Major Hasan's officer record brief.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 20:55||   2009-11-05 20:55|| Front Page Top

#88 From the brief, his military record:

1 year as an intern (standard)
3 years as a psychiatry resident (standard)
2 years as a psychiatry fellow, ending 7/1/09 (standard)

Then on 7/16 he's assigned as a psychiatrist to Ft. Hood.

Not sure why he's not board certified; if he finished his residency in 2007 he would have taken their exam in either '07 or '08. Per the American Board of Psychiatry, he would have to pass both the written and oral exam.

Per the ABP listing of new diplomates for 2008 and 2009 (several PDF files), Dr. Hasan is not listed, which means he did not pass the board exam in either of those years. He might have done so in 2007, and the initial diplomate lists for that year are not available on the website.
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 21:02||   2009-11-05 21:02|| Front Page Top

#89 As to his promotion to Major, it is my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that a physician with advanced training (e.g., fellowship) will be slotted as a Major (Lt. Commander in the Navy); whereas a physicians with standard residency training only gets slotted as a Captain (Lt. in the Navy).
Posted by Steve White 2009-11-05 21:07||   2009-11-05 21:07|| Front Page Top

#90 To start with, but there certainly are MDs in uniform with higher rank.
Posted by lotp 2009-11-05 21:12||   2009-11-05 21:12|| Front Page Top

#91 God bless the warriors and their families who gave their lives and injuries for this evil POS. Fox carried the news just now that the POS is NOT DEAD.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-11-05 21:15||   2009-11-05 21:15|| Front Page Top

#92 He's alive -----
Posted by Sherry">Sherry  2009-11-05 21:17||   2009-11-05 21:17|| Front Page Top

#93 whoa
Posted by IG-88 2009-11-05 21:25||   2009-11-05 21:25|| Front Page Top

#94 Yup, gonna be interesting ....
Posted by lotp 2009-11-05 21:33||   2009-11-05 21:33|| Front Page Top

#95 He's alive -----
Shoot him, like they did this bastard.
Posted by tipper 2009-11-05 21:35||   2009-11-05 21:35|| Front Page Top

#96 this story is going to get burried and fast. especially if he had an accomplice.

will spin it as "poor soldiers break under the strain of constant deployment' and use it as the excuse to grab defeat and flee Iraq adn A-stan.

0bama's handling makes me sick
Posted by abu do you love ">abu do you love  2009-11-05 21:35||   2009-11-05 21:35|| Front Page Top

#97 Woozle Uneter9007, those five cut through the external barrier fence and were caught within minutes. Cuffed and forced to lay on the cold, cold ground for four and half hours. They didn't get close to the weapons or launch facilities.
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839  2009-11-05 21:37||   2009-11-05 21:37|| Front Page Top

#98 Per the leaked officer record brief and also comments by his cousin, Hasan never deployed.
Posted by lotp 2009-11-05 21:38||   2009-11-05 21:38|| Front Page Top

#99 If he's alive....

Castrate him with a sledgehammer, flay him alive by grinding his skin off with dull rocks and then boil him alive in pig shit with a koran nailed to his head with a pig bone.

I reserve my compassion for humans, such as the victims of rabid animals like this one. No mercy for traitors.


I'm really sorry, but I'm TIRED of seeing shit like this. This sort of thing is exactly why I carry a gun and avoid places when I can where they make me disarm. I have the bad feeling that these sorts of incidents are going to become more and more common, especially as the demonrats continue to gut our freedoms.
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2009-11-05 21:41||   2009-11-05 21:41|| Front Page Top

#100 He's alive -----
NO!



IT'S ALIVE


You have to admit the resemblence.
Posted by BigEd 2009-11-05 22:41||   2009-11-05 22:41|| Front Page Top

#101 How many Christians in the Army of Islam? None. Time to get the picture.
Posted by rhodesiafever 2009-11-05 22:43||   2009-11-05 22:43|| Front Page Top

#102 How many Christians in the Army of Islam? None. Time to get the picture.
What! they don't have a "don't ask, don't" tell about religion their armies?
Posted by tipper 2009-11-05 22:54||   2009-11-05 22:54|| Front Page Top

#103 How many Christians in the Army of Islam?

There used to be the Janissaries... Ottoman empire, I think. Of course, they were not volunteers.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-11-05 23:43||   2009-11-05 23:43|| Front Page Top

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