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2021-11-04 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

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Posted by M. Murcek 2021-11-04 08:16|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 Whatever... Clickbait title. Not the first time I've read of one of these "multinational exercises" where the US troops got walloped. I expect that quite a bit of "diplomacy" is involved with these dog n' pony shows to make the visiting countries leave without being embarrassed.

Posted by magpie 2021-11-04 10:04|| 2021-11-04 10:04|| Front Page Top

#2 One thing I read about WW2 was that whenever the Marines had a real botched rehearsal, the actual landing was flawless.

Posted by Whaviling Bourbon9537 2021-11-04 10:38|| 2021-11-04 10:38|| Front Page Top

#3 I would be curious to know if the Marines were playing the bad guys and using Chinese or Russian tactics against the allies. That sort of thing seems more likely than both sides having a sports like scrimage when they are unlikely to ever actually fight each other.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-11-04 12:44|| 2021-11-04 12:44|| Front Page Top

#4 magpie -- the rules of the exercise are the critical detail.

And the reset makes sense; once an exercise passes the point of being able to teach you anything, why waste time playing it out to the conclusion? Reset, try again, and learn something new.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-11-04 13:48|| 2021-11-04 13:48|| Front Page Top

#5 And that article is trash. It's mostly obsessing over Twitter garbage, rather than giving any deeper information about the exercise.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-11-04 13:50|| 2021-11-04 13:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Visiting 'blue teams' very seldom won at the National Training Center against the home team OPFOR. You learn through failure. In addition, the OPFOR was doing this several times a year, while the visitors wouldn't go through it but once every three years at most. Train, Train, Train. Meanwhile, the personnel in those visiting teams usually rotated to new assignments in those three year, but they took their experience with them.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-11-04 13:54|| 2021-11-04 13:54|| Front Page Top

#7 ....NTC lessons learned were synthesized into various publications and After Action Reports were archived at the Center for Army Lessons Learned.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-11-04 13:58|| 2021-11-04 13:58|| Front Page Top

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