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2021-11-03 Fifth Column
Jury is shown moment Kyle Rittenhouse shoots dead BLM protestor and AR-15 he used: Claims he killed two in self-defense because one threatened to kill him and one tried to 'decapitate' him with skateboard, on first day of murder trial
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Posted by Skidmark 2021-11-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ]  Top
 File under: Antifa/BLM 

#1 free Kyle!
Posted by Chris 2021-11-03 09:02||   2021-11-03 09:02|| Front Page Top

#2 ^ and jail ADA Binger
Posted by Bill Sforza2984 2021-11-03 10:15||   2021-11-03 10:15|| Front Page Top

#3 A skateboard is that item when placed on the ground and rode on.

When handled in a swinging motion, it is more akin to a Sali.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-11-03 14:31||   2021-11-03 14:31|| Front Page Top

#4 There will undoubtedly be some jurors who believe the kid had no business being there with a gun in the first place and has to be guilty of something, so they will vote to convict on something. And likely more who will vote to convict to avoid more riots, anticipating an appeal will fix it for them. Whether those groups add up to a conviction will remain to be seen.
Posted by Glenmore 2021-11-03 14:49||   2021-11-03 14:49|| Front Page Top

#5 Glenmore, I doubt the jury has the cognitive ability to think that far ahead to the appeals process. In fact they select juries based on their lack of critical thinking
Posted by Bugs Speaking for Boskone1799 2021-11-03 15:07||   2021-11-03 15:07|| Front Page Top

#6 Buggsy, I was on a jury where something like the first scenario came into play. The defendant had clearly committed a crime but we were not able to figure out from the 'reading' of the legal statutes of the charges which (if either) of the charges applied, and of course could get no legal guidance from the judge (just another reading of gobbledy-gook) so we convicted of the lesser charge.
Posted by Glenmore 2021-11-03 15:54||   2021-11-03 15:54|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ No doubt the charging process as it's done now is a weakness of our jury system. For one thing, it's like watching a game and then being told what the rules are.
Posted by Matt 2021-11-03 16:11||   2021-11-03 16:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Matt, I was and remain convinced we did the right thing. I was on another jury later and again we 'fought' the legal system to achieve what we believed to be justice. I am amazed at the wisdom of our jury system, and can only encourage all of us to submit to the inconvenience and BS and do their duty.
Posted by Glenmore 2021-11-03 16:23||   2021-11-03 16:23|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ Glenmore, a very large majority of judges and lawyers (at least the ones who have seen the inside of a courtroom) would agree with you that juries usually (1) work their tails off to get it right and (2) usually do get it right, as I'm sure your juries did. But the legal system should not require jurors to unmake legal sausage to do their jobs.

It is truly impressive to me to see how seriously jurors take their duties. That's the soul of the Republic in action.
Posted by Matt 2021-11-03 16:38||   2021-11-03 16:38|| Front Page Top

#10 It's not uncommon (but hardly a carved in stone rule) that a defense lawyer will tell a likely guilty client to take chances with a jury if they can't get a plea. The same attorney will often tell a likely innocent client to take their chances with a judge alone.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-11-03 16:41||   2021-11-03 16:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Matt, glad to hear that confirmation from the more informed part of the legal system, Thanks.
Posted by Glenmore 2021-11-03 16:42||   2021-11-03 16:42|| Front Page Top

#12 
Posted by Hupusolet Smith5796 2021-11-03 17:23||   2021-11-03 17:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Best coverage is by Self-Defense expert, attorney Andrew Branca, at LegalInsurrection.com
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2021-11-03 19:39||   2021-11-03 19:39|| Front Page Top

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