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2004-11-03 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by 2b 2004-11-03 7:37:24 AM|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Indeed, God did not abandon us in our hour of need.

Posted by Douglas De Bono 2004-11-03 8:46:44 AM|| [http://www.douglasdebono.com] 2004-11-03 8:46:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm a lot more confident now than I was at 4 p.m. yesterday. But there still remains the chance the late returns from the dead will steal it away from us.

Posted by Fred 2004-11-03 8:52:12 AM|| 2004-11-03 8:52:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I hope W. just relaxes this morning. No need to declare anything yet. Let Kerry have some more time to do the right thing. If Kerry decides not to it gives the dimmis more time to look even more pathetic. Hopefully Kerry will do the right thing sooner then later for himself. If he doesn't, then it only behooves the Repubs as Americans will see Kerry and his party for what they have really become.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-11-03 8:52:23 AM|| 2004-11-03 8:52:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Op tempo is all, Jarhead, and there are costs to the country for the refusal to concede. After 2000 I have little patience with this.

Posted by rkb 2004-11-03 9:04:00 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:04:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Fred, the only really dead people are Kedwards.

They don't have the backlog of votes in the provos or absentee ballots in Ohio. They have too much a gap to make up. The dems will suffer severly among independents in nation if they do not concede quickly especially if Iowa, New Mexico and Nevada are given to Bush. This is another reason the Clintons put their people in the campaign - to help keep the Indies sanity if it got close. Hillary will need all those votes in 08 and she doesn't want Kerry to alienate them. As far as Edwards goes, he is toast. He is a future non-factor - forever a loser! He couldn't even bring in his home state (both of them - NC/SC) and his seat went to a republican. What is fascinating and that I haven't heard a lot of lately is that Kerry is still a senator and it will be fun watching him taking on Bush in term 2. By the way, if Kerry is the "new" Dem leader then how come Harry Reid will be the new minority leader in the Senate?

Posted by Jack is Back! 2004-11-03 9:14:17 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:14:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm glad to hear you say you were skeered at four yesterday Fred, I thought I was the only wimp. Paid too damn much attention to exit polling. Again!

Posted by Shipman 2004-11-03 9:16:22 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:16:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I think it's over Fred. With 100% of precincts in Ohio reporting Bush is up 136,221 and Ohio is currently reporting 135,149 issued provisional ballots (though the site updates so there will likely be a few more). Ohio makes it at worst 269-269 and the House would reelect Bush so at this point Iowa and New Mexico are pretty much irrelevant.

Posted by AzCat 2004-11-03 9:18:57 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:18:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 rkb, what is the cost to the country of Kerry not conceding? The electoral college doesn't meet for weeks. If Kerry wants to be a poor loser and plunge the MSM into fits of scenario generation, it only makes them all look foolish. Kerry's handling of the concession is really the kickoff for the 2008 race. If the Democrats want to start looking like crybaby trial attorneys, fine with me. The result will not be changed one iota.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-03 9:24:11 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:24:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I've already made the call Mrs. D.

Posted by Hillary 2004-11-03 9:25:37 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:25:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 rkb, granted, I have no patience for whiners/sore losers either & I do not wish for Kerry to drag this out another week as it is bad for the country. I do want a loyal opposition in this country (I'm still an independent at heart). I can wait another 12 hours however for democracy to complete it's job. Plus, Bush looks more statesmen-like if he gives Kerry at least a little more time concede on his own before throwing the "bullshit flag". I still think Kerry's a schmuck and would like nothing better then to rub it in but I think W. benefits if he waits a bit. In situations like these, I always ask myself - what would George Washington, Ben Franklin or Abe Lincoln do?

Posted by Jarhead 2004-11-03 9:28:34 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:28:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I knew that my prayers were working! The defeat of Kerry and Daschele proves that there really is a God! JK but I really am a happy person this morning.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-11-03 9:32:16 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:32:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Checkout the Wailing and Ghashing of Teeth over at Democratic Underground.

WARNING: Dont wear your good shoes! In fact waders are recommended...

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-11-03 9:35:17 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:35:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Despite my severe and growing anger that Kerry won't concede, I do feel like an enormous weight has been lifted from me this morning.

I'm particularly pleased to hear that Clark County in Ohio told the Guardian loons to shove it.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-11-03 9:37:46 AM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-11-03 9:37:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Do the Math.

At most there are 180K total provisional ballots. At best, 70% are valid (based on 2002, only 40% of them are probably valid). For the sake of argument, lets use 70%. Thats 126K Provisional. And there are an estimated 5000 absentee votes yet to be counted, almost all of the military.

Thats 131,000. Bush is up by over 134,000.

Even if Kerry were to win every single one of those militay ballots, and the provisional ballots, he cannot win.

Had Kerry and company any grace at all, he would conceed.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-03 9:47:21 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:47:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 I finally went to bed at 2 after waiting and waiting for the MSM to give Ohio to Bush but they...just...couldn't...do...it. Also wanted to hang around to see who had their nervous breakdown first, Dan Rather or Judy Woodruff.
I don't know for sure, but were "provisional votes" invented about 12:30 this morning? That was about the first time I had ever heard of them.

Posted by tu3031 2004-11-03 9:50:07 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:50:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Mrs. Kerry to son: "Integrity. Integrity. Integrity."

John Kerry: "Huh?"

Posted by eLarson 2004-11-03 9:50:10 AM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2004-11-03 9:50:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Four more years. Those words never meant more than they do right now.

Posted by Chris W. 2004-11-03 9:50:13 AM|| 2004-11-03 9:50:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 That persistant "thunking" sound this morning is the loony left trying to commit suicide by jumping out of first floor windows.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2004-11-03 9:50:52 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2004-11-03 9:50:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Here's a question: Would Bush have won without blogs? Seems to me the answer is no: without them, the Swiftboat Vets never would have seen the light of day; and Dan Rather could have perpetrated his stunt with the forged Texas Air National Guard memos with complete impunity. I suppose I could find other examples looking back, but those are the two that pop out right off the top.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-11-03 10:01:25 AM|| 2004-11-03 10:01:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 I put my 2Â¢ in and tried to deliver PA's 21 electoral votes to Bush. Thank God the rest of the nation didn't falter!

Posted by Dar 2004-11-03 10:07:35 AM|| 2004-11-03 10:07:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 CNN reporting that 20k provisionals have been tallied in Ohio with 2/3 coming in for Bush.

Posted by AzCat 2004-11-03 10:14:46 AM|| 2004-11-03 10:14:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#22 Would Bush have won without blogs? I would have to say no. The SeeBS, F911, Hollywoodheads, and Moveon folks would have lathered up the LLL with impunity. It was the line in the sand, drawn by the Pajamahadeen, that carried this election. Every word uttered by the MSM was disected before the 24-hour news cycle was over. Debunking of the myths and charges from the LLL. Thank you brave soldiers for you efforts! Dirka Dirka Pajamahadeen, ALA AHKBAR! (Yes GOD is great!)

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2004-11-03 10:34:15 AM|| 2004-11-03 10:34:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#23 "Every word uttered by the MSM was disected before the 24-hour news cycle was over."

Ayup. I think that is a reality that is here to stay, and it's one the MSM are going to have an increasingly difficult time dealing with. For now, they retain a near-monopoly on raw news collection, and will until the first bloggers are invited to White House press conferences in lieu of CBS/NBC/ABC, etc.

But they're lost forever the ability to cherry-pick facts with complete impunity, as well as their monopoly in telling us how to interpret the facts.

The Blogosphere is a distributed, parallel-processing Bullshit Detection System with global reach and near-instantaneous response time.

Dan Rather, eat our shorts.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-11-03 10:45:25 AM|| 2004-11-03 10:45:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#24 The Blogosphere is a distributed, parallel-processing Bullshit Detection System

Damn! I'm impressed.
BOINC for BS!

Posted by Shipman 2004-11-03 11:09:20 AM|| 2004-11-03 11:09:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#25 The Blogosphere is a distributed, parallel-processing Bullshit Detection System

Dave, that is a great quote! I love it!

I think this election should send a very strong message to the MSM that they just dont get it and they better stop the bullshit.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-11-03 12:17:40 PM|| 2004-11-03 12:17:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I hope that we will now begin to prepare for 2008. I also hope that the government will aggressively investigate voter fraud and abused non-profit status. Purge the executive branch agencies, especially CIA and FBI of blatant politics. It's the way the Dhimmicrats play the game. Why hold the reigns of government if you refuse to use them?

Posted by SR71 2004-11-03 12:32:22 PM|| 2004-11-03 12:32:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 The best prep for '08 will be to allow W to continue to rebuild the GOP. I spoke to a couple of folks close to the campaign at the convention who believe that he may well be the best political organizer the GOP has seen in nearly a century. Hyperbole or not his organization won the game for him yesterday.

Posted by AzCat 2004-11-03 4:09:21 PM|| 2004-11-03 4:09:21 PM|| Front Page Top

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