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2008-10-21 Home Front: Politix
Stealing the Presidency: An Obama/ACORN Primer
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Posted by tipper 2008-10-21 01:37|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Please clarify for me. We have a bunch of ACORN folks doing their best to ensure the Marxist Massiah is elected, by submitting many fraudulent voter registration forms. Obviously these folks have gone over to the dark side of the force. However, I don't understand how these fraudulent registrations are turned into actual votes, and hence into their preferred spokesbat being given the keys to the whitehouse. There must be a way, or their efforts seem pointless. Can anyone enlighten me?
Posted by Bunyip 2008-10-21 03:13||   2008-10-21 03:13|| Front Page Top

#2 I suppose one could ask King Richard the First (the original Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago), who is reported to have had a large number of dead folks vote for JFK. If you're going to have dead folks voting, you'd certainly want them registered!
Posted by Bobby 2008-10-21 05:35||   2008-10-21 05:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Mail-in absentee ballots.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2008-10-21 06:53|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2008-10-21 06:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Mail-in absentee ballots. And early voting other than mail-in. That's how he won several states in the primaries.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2008-10-21 07:09||   2008-10-21 07:09|| Front Page Top

#5 There's an American football term - flood the zone. You put enough receivers into a location and someone is going to come up with the ball. In this case you stuff enough fake vote registrations through you'll get some to count. When you get the assistance of a key official, like the Secty of State in Ohio who refuses to perform a verification, you're able to do a Daley. For all his faults, when Richard Nixon was presented evidence of the fraud in Illinois and the opportunity to contest it, he declined because he considered the office too important to be compromised by the act. Times are different now and the Donks don't care if its tainted or not, for them it's POWER.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-10-21 07:37||   2008-10-21 07:37|| Front Page Top

#6 John McCain MUST jump all over this second BAILOUT proposal and Barney Franks statement that "new taxes" are needed.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-21 09:06||   2008-10-21 09:06|| Front Page Top

#7 Besoeker,

Couldn't agree with you more. I just heard a tape of the interview with Barney frank. My jaw dropped. This is a HUGE gift. If McCain's people can't get this into a campaign spot on television and radio within the next 24-48 hours, and if both Palin and Mac don't work this into their stump speeches and then hammer it home for the next 14 days...then we are truly screwed.
Posted by MarkZ 2008-10-21 10:38||   2008-10-21 10:38|| Front Page Top

#8 Do you really think it would matter? Poor people hate rich people and blame them for all of society's woes. They are poor for a reason, not just bad luck, they are uneducated and make bad decisions.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-10-21 12:47||   2008-10-21 12:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Nearly half of the American people classified as 'poor' are middle class by most countries and cultures in this world. It's a arbitrary line drawn by bureaucrats who need to justify their existence. When you get to the traditional poor in this country, you find that the vast bulk of them are there because of human free will. Others in their same circumstances have made different choices and have risen above the situation. Substance abuse, creating families before acquiring the skills to feed, clothing, and shelter them, blowing off their education opportunities, and keeping to the 'old ways' all are choices. They have to be part of the solution as no program will solve those problems they create for themselves.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-10-21 15:38||   2008-10-21 15:38|| Front Page Top

#10 "When you get to the traditional poor in this country, you find that the vast bulk of them are there because of human free will.

I would not be so categorical.

Also, most of the America's so called "middle class" are actually poor by the Old Europe's standards.
Posted by General_Comment 2008-10-21 15:43||   2008-10-21 15:43|| Front Page Top

#11 So,... GC are you ready for our "Duel to the Death" with noodles and red-sauce at 10 paces?

visit your earlier post mister I am better than you lawyer scum.
Posted by 3dc 2008-10-21 15:46||   2008-10-21 15:46|| Front Page Top

#12 3dc, I don't want to dual with you.

If you still want to duel I choose 12.7 mm sniper rifle with a 2 mile range and an optical scope.

Your weapon?
Posted by General_Comment 2008-10-21 15:54||   2008-10-21 15:54|| Front Page Top

#13 You don't get the choice.

There were two insults.
So I choose as a weapon Pasta with Red Sauce.
Nobody gets physically hurt.
Posted by 3dc 2008-10-21 16:07||   2008-10-21 16:07|| Front Page Top

#14 I choose an Apple Pie with Cream Topping as a point defense weapon, and a huge bowl of Borsch as an area denial weapon.
Posted by General_Comment 2008-10-21 16:17||   2008-10-21 16:17|| Front Page Top

#15 
I am allergic to milk and cream.
Soy I can do.
If you want something cheaper than apples - I have a pear tree going to the squirrels... I could deny the rodents a few pears...
Posted by 3dc 2008-10-21 16:19||   2008-10-21 16:19|| Front Page Top

#16 Is this you?
Posted by General_Comment 2008-10-21 16:22||   2008-10-21 16:22|| Front Page Top

#17 Food fight! Food fight!!!
Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom  2008-10-21 16:29|| http://www.celiahayes.com]">[http://www.celiahayes.com]  2008-10-21 16:29|| Front Page Top

#18 Also, I am throwing a 3-gallon-soy-milk-filled canister bomb . . . .
Posted by General_Comment 2008-10-21 16:37||   2008-10-21 16:37|| Front Page Top

#19 3dc is a very good cook so I want to be there to eat the leftovers.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2008-10-21 16:38||   2008-10-21 16:38|| Front Page Top

#20 What a waste of bandwidth. Diverting attention from "Stealing the Presidency: An Obama/ACORN Primer" makes G_C happy, so ignore him!
Posted by Darrell 2008-10-21 16:40||   2008-10-21 16:40|| Front Page Top

#21 2004 Study: "The EU vs. USA," by Fredrik Bergstrom and Robert Gidehag for the Swedish think tank Timbro.


Higher GDP per capita allows the average American to spend about $9,700 more on consumption every year than the average European. So Yanks have by far more cars, TVs, computers and other modern goods. "Most Americans have a standard of living which the majority of Europeans will never come anywhere near," the Swedish study says.
Posted by Ulusoling Hatfield4645 2008-10-21 16:57||   2008-10-21 16:57|| Front Page Top

#22 GC wants to change the subject and seem "chummy" here on his very own assigned-by-the-left website. He has a job to do. Try to manipulate conservatives, undecideds . . .

link here for a REAL food fight

In contrast, on Page 293 of "Dreams for My Father," Obama recounts Wright's "The Audacity of Hope" sermon, and Obama quotes this passage:

"It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere…That’s the world! On which hope sits!"

How motivating. But the Obama's spent almost $500 on dinner. Is it okay if they ate it all?

Here's a quote from OBAMA's HERO:

"A People's Organization is dedicated to an eternal war...A war is not an intellectual debate, and in the war against social evils there are no rules of fair play."
  - Saul Alinsky; Reveille for Radicals; p. 133

Clearly, Alinsky's acolytes take him at his word.  When one is fighting a war "against social evils," one is above the law.  Rules and laws are for the other people.

So voter fraud? Heck yeah, if it gets Obama elected. Do whatever works. The rule of law doesn't matter. Obots are above the law.

from the linked article: "Should legal, registered, qualified voters be concerned that their votes will be negated by fraudulent votes?  Yes, we all should be. 

A lifelong Democrat from D.C., Dr. Lynette Long, has spent the past 6 months investigating and tallying results from the Democratic Party nominating contests.  Her conclusion:

"As I write this, the Democratic Party is poised to formally nominate Barack Obama as its candidate for President of the United States.

"It's the triumph of fraud.

"I've spent the past two months immersed in data from the 2008 Democratic caucuses. After studying the procedures and results from all fourteen caucus states, interviewing dozens of witnesses, and reviewing hundreds of personal stories, my conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process." (emphasis in original)

So Obama is a cheater, a fraud, a thief.

Obama has been sued regarding his lack of production of an actual birth certificate. Doubtful he has an American birth certificate. It would be easy enough to produce it. The one floated on the net is a fraud.

If Obama was white, his whole campaign would be a joke, a nothing.

So it IS ABOUT RACE, and stealing the presidency. That's not racist. That's just the facts.


Posted by ex-lib 2008-10-21 17:38||   2008-10-21 17:38|| Front Page Top

#23 It's not about race -- they just use that as a convenient tool from time to time. It's about the left seizing power any way they can, legal or not, ethical or not.
Posted by Darrell 2008-10-21 17:43||   2008-10-21 17:43|| Front Page Top

#24 The Specter of Poverty in America
Tuesday, September 21, 2004
By Robert Rector

Last month, the Census Bureau released annual poverty figures showing that the percentage of Americans who are poor rose from 12.1 percent in 2002 to 12.5 percent in 2003.
It's important to recognize that these figures are a year old. They cover 2003, not the current year. Given current economic conditions, it is extremely likely that poverty fell during 2004, although the official figures won't be available until the fall of next year.
Poverty is a lagging economic indicator. Formal recessions (when the whole economy is shrinking) usually last less than a year. But the poverty rate almost always continues to rise for several years after the recession ends. The last recession officially ended in November 2001, but the poverty rate continued to rise in 2002 and 2003. This is a normal economic pattern that has occurred in most prior recessions.
Compared to prior recessions, the recent recession was mild and had a limited impact on poverty. Overall, the increase in poverty resulting from the recent downturn has been half the increase that occurred in the two last recessions that hit the economy in the early 1980s and early 1990s.
Still, the Census Bureau reports that 35.9 million persons "lived in poverty" in 2003, a number that should cause concern to all. But to really understand poverty in America, it's important to look behind these numbers — to the actual living conditions of the individuals the government deems poor.
For most Americans, the word "poverty" suggests destitution: an inability to provide a family with nutritious food, clothing and reasonable shelter. But only a small number of the million persons classified as "poor" by the Census Bureau fit that description. Real material hardship certainly does occur, but it's limited in scope and severity. Most of America's "poor" live in material conditions that would be judged as comfortable or well-off just a few generations ago.
The following are facts about persons defined as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:
— Forty-six percent of all poor households own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and porch or patio.
— Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
— Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
— The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens and other European cities. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
— Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.
— Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television. Over half own two or more color televisions.
— Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
— Seventy-three percent own a microwave oven, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.
Overall, the typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family isn't hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family's essential needs. While this individual's life is not opulent, it is equally far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, activists and politicians.
Even better news is that remaining poverty can readily be reduced, especially among children. Child poverty in the U.S. is caused largely by low levels of parental work and by the absence of fathers from the home. While work and two-parent families are the surest ladders out of poverty, the welfare system continues to reward idleness while failing to provide support to keep families in tact.
To further reduce poverty, welfare should be overhauled: All able-bodied welfare recipients should be required to work or prepare for work in exchange for the aid they receive. Also, new parents in low-income communities who express interest in marriage (and research tells us there are many) should be equipped with the skills they need to create a healthy marriage, rather than be penalized when they do get married.
Robert Rector is a senior research fellow at The Heritage Foundation.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-10-21 17:54||   2008-10-21 17:54|| Front Page Top

#25 Way back in #1, Bunyip wrote:
However, I don't understand how these fraudulent registrations are turned into actual votes, and hence into their preferred spokesbat being given the keys to the whitehouse. There must be a way, or their efforts seem pointless. Can anyone enlighten me?

Here's how it worked in the midwest. (Milwaukee specifically, but it was almost certainly the same in Chicago.) Back when all you would need to show is a letter addressed to "you" at an address in the precinct to vote there, the organization--and I don't know it was specifically ACORN--would start by mailing envelopes to all the abandoned buildings they could find.
2) collect the letters that were delivered
3) pass the letters out to volunteers who would go vote under the name on the envelope in that precinct... then ride the bus to another and vote with another envelope as proof of residency... and lather rinse and repeat all day long.

The people coordinating this effort would tell the volunteers that the election judges at those places were expecting them to "run some people by" to vote.
--
(as heard on the Chris Plante Show from a woman who had enough details of the operation to sound VERY credible.)
Posted by eLarson 2008-10-21 18:05||   2008-10-21 18:05|| Front Page Top

#26 Can the Dems nominate a presidential candidate who is not a criminal? Most voters were too young to vote for the last Dem, Jimmy, who was a bad president but not a criminal. Does it worry anyone else that one of the two political parties only produces criminals a presidential candidates?
Posted by whatadeal 2008-10-21 18:22||   2008-10-21 18:22|| Front Page Top

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