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2020-10-29 Europe

Another Beheading in France! UPDATE: Multiple Attacks and Attempts Across France

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Posted by 3dc 2020-10-29 05:31|| || Front Page|| [11141 views ] Top
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#1 Lone wolF NTDWI worries about backlash on peaceful muslims?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-29 06:49|| 2020-10-29 06:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Sun link here

France ‘terror’ attack: Woman & man beheaded as 3 die in stabbing inside Nice church by killer ‘shouting Allahu Akbar’

Which will work best?
Gun control?
Knife Control
Border control (don't let those infected with islam in)?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-10-29 06:50|| 2020-10-29 06:50|| Front Page Top

#3 President Dubya, what was that you said about a certain religion of peace?

Posted by Clem 2020-10-29 06:54|| 2020-10-29 06:54|| Front Page Top

#4 But the French seem to draw correct conclusions
French police shoot armed man near Avignon who shouted 'Allahu Akbar'

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-10-29 07:24|| 2020-10-29 07:24|| Front Page Top

#5 I can't help but think of the instructive tale of 'the most humane mule trainer on earth' and the resultant moral; you have to communicate with the subject in an idiom they can understand.

So, if their 'book' commands they desecrate other holy places and behead innocents, I say we see them and raise them until an understanding can be reached. That is certainly the way it has worked traditionally.

Posted by Cesare 2020-10-29 07:44|| 2020-10-29 07:44|| Front Page Top

#6 When are the men of France going to stand up and start killing these sub humans.

Posted by Mad Eye Angonter1301 2020-10-29 08:11|| 2020-10-29 08:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Need a new French Resistance.

Posted by Clem 2020-10-29 08:14|| 2020-10-29 08:14|| Front Page Top

#8 One of ours, ten of yours. Comprends?

Posted by Lonzo Slunter7475 2020-10-29 08:15|| 2020-10-29 08:15|| Front Page Top

#9 Successful business man Trump and the American people who elected him, refuses to let these "refugees" in. Politicians never get it right.

Posted by Angeater Omick2705 2020-10-29 09:27|| 2020-10-29 09:27|| Front Page Top

#10 So the Pope is not the only one attacking Christians.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-10-29 10:07|| 2020-10-29 10:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Chop the necks of the unbelievers. It's drilled into their minds in the madrassas. Along with some rather bizarre body cleansing rituals.

Posted by jpal 2020-10-29 10:17|| 2020-10-29 10:17|| Front Page Top

#12 President Dubya, what was that you said about a certain religion of peace?

"Islam is Peace" Says President
Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
September 17, 2001

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2020-10-29 10:21|| 2020-10-29 10:21|| Front Page Top

#13 Maybe it's time to bring back Madame Guillotine.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2020-10-29 10:45|| 2020-10-29 10:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Islam is a "temperature dependent” ideology. What ? That’s crazy..... No, it is as It comprises a set of human logic created because its originators were NOT exposed to winter (long predictable periods of time when growing food is basically impossible) and in addition it began in one of the few places on earth without any top-soil, no rivers or streams, no forests, no grasslands and which has for centuries sustained an absence of rainfall (not decades of drought but over a 1000 years of drought) Secondly, this ideology was kept in check by its inherently illogical approach to economic productivity. Humans moving from a Nomadic culture to an Agrarian one is structurally different in its logic and values. Nomadic culture has no understanding nor appreciation of the link between human effort exerted and the wealth and food it creates. Food it taken, sex is taken, objects are not made but taken from other humans. Nomadic culture understand that food/wealth/objects of value/ even procreation as things that simply exist, than other have and one has to take them to acquire them. Stealing, theft, the use of force (even towards women/spouse) in order to obtain thus justified and seen as logically valid ways to not just improve oneself but just to stay alive. Agricultural development is totally different. Land / food /spouse requires indivuals effort to obtain. The connection between ones effort and ones wealth thus becomes undeniable. It requires staying in one place (think stability, villages & inheritance), which necessitates ownership of property (land, crops, water rights, laws, and predictable relationships (written agreements, laws rather than temporal edicts.) All this require all parties to honor others’ predicaments, property, opinions and ideas. Technology really exploded when Agraian culture came into being. Think of coexistence, an appreciation of "mine not yours" and having real consequences for stealing. Most importantly all agricultural societies that have left behind their nomadic tendencies have an extended period of time where growth of food is not possible. This time period which we call "winter" is predictable. We KNOW it’s coming. The key difference between Islam which is an ideology stuck in its Nomadic upbringing and the cultural logic of today's Agricultural / Industrial / Information age cultures is that winter teaches humans to be AWARE of time. A predictable period in which one HAS no ability to get more food. When humans were essentially ALL substance beings winter meant that if you ate all your food without planning ahead, your chances of getting through the winter to procreate next spring was zero. The filtering process of death meant those that were aware procreated and grew in number. Winter inculcates a real sense of self control over one's baser and immediate desires. Thus a lack of real appreciation of time is what sets nomadic culture from all that comes after it. An awareness of time then creates an ability to plan ahead. People become independent thinkers, not simply followers, the exact opposite of what is meant by "Umma". These traits are not totally absent from Islam, but they are sufficiently absent that one can easily still see its undergirding today. The inability to win wars (takes strategic planning not just the luck of having hordes of sword swinging men rushing towards the enemy) That the '67 war for example. The lack of books printed in Islamic lands. The continued emphasis on memorization and not a true understand of what one is reading. The inability to debate well on TV about their beliefs. The enormous lack of Nobel prizes amongst Islamic people as a percentage of their world population. The recent (historically speaking) past has allowed a sudden oil wealth to paint over these intellectual and cultural gaps. A facade was been carefully nurtured these past decades. That 60+ year flow of petro-dollars allowed for both their ideology and the West's weak understanding of Islam to be placed aside. Today most people just have a Media’s carefully derived perspective of Islam. Just look most people’s views of Dubai and Abu Dhabi, Riyadh & Doha. These city(States) are physically and visually impressive, but lack long term economic stability or growth potential. Riyadh's not particularly impressive at all, its spread far an wide, totally bleak..... Fracking is what has taken the huge bite out of this capital flow into Islam. Fracking is just an application of a technology (the ability to create extreme high water pressure on a mobile platform and be able to move it from one wellsite to the next over the formation) This has unleashed oil reserves which were well known to Geologists to exist as far back as the 1950's but which were deemed impractical to extract due to the lack of any known technology that was economical. This technology genie is now out of the bottle and will never be returned. The pressure to stop fracking is NOT due to any real environmental or physical problems. The current push to stop fracking (todays US election topics) is done by parties who wish to return to having huge capital flows back to the Middle East because those huge funds are easy to identify and skim off percentages for corrupt politicians or bureaucrats. Its hard to skim funds from hundreds of small fracking companies located all over the world. Just remember.... Islam is an ideology that was created by a culture that was nomadic. That means it has no sense of time and or appreciation for self control. Hence the use of force and violence is often the go to method to get what one wants. The recent two knifings in France. It isn't productive effort that yield satisfaction for the follower but the taking and subjugation of others who are productive, or want stopped or have things they desire. Violence is preferred rather than reasoning. I’ve said enough…… Bye.

Posted by Ospas Dhahran 49 2020-10-29 10:47|| 2020-10-29 10:47|| Front Page Top

#15 Goodness, Ospas Dhahran 49 — you have clearly been thinking about this for some time! It’s a good thing you found Rantburg, my dear.

Via PJ Media, an undated video taken somewhere in France:

In Paris, as Muslims pray on roads, blocking streets, they are met with equally loud singing of the French National Anthem by French citizens.

pic.twitter.com/OzVxXq6vaQ
— Tarek Fatah (@TarekFatah) October 26, 2020

Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-29 11:05|| 2020-10-29 11:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Camp Des Saints realise

Posted by Zorba the Slender8199 2020-10-29 11:22|| 2020-10-29 11:22|| Front Page Top

#17 Been following Rantburg for a long long time. Using many different IPs. Retired now and exited the system. Can now speak freely. Lots more to unleash. Here's the idea that caused lots of analysts in 3 letter orgs to stop pontificating and simply think. Question is: If Islam has such a huge following for over 1000 years.....(this is not disputed)....then why is it always located in areas close to the equator? It doesn't have a history in location s closers to both Poles. Western (Judaic / Christian) culture is located in all sorts of climates, all sorts of geographical locations. Russian Jews, Christian in jungles, Australian deserts, islands, tundras, grassland, Swiss mountain sides. But Islam hugs the equator AND lands with very poor agriculture. Why. From there on its all unfolded.... Cheers. (Oh and your Thugburg reference list came in handy fairly often......)

I think I once commented some time ago under the name DhaRtAbqUdh or something like that..... Back when Abqaiq was first attacked, not its second time.....

Posted by Ospas Dhahran 49 2020-10-29 11:38|| 2020-10-29 11:38|| Front Page Top

#18 And the attacks have happened as Muslims celebrate the holy day Mawlid, which marks the birth of Mohammed.

As with the left's abortion enthusiasm, murder is a sacrament for Muslims.

He said: "Enough is enough. It's time now for France to exonerate itself from the laws of peace in order to definitively wipe out Islamo-fascism from our territory."

There's the problem right there.

It's not "Islamofascism".

It's just Islam.

Stop trying to create meaningless qualifiers and distinctions.

When are the men of France going to stand up and start killing these sub humans.

When they can be certain they won't arrested or killed by the authorities for doing so, while their families lives are ruined.

When will the women of the West stop giving majorities to the scum that enable this trash?

Posted by charger 2020-10-29 11:42|| 2020-10-29 11:42|| Front Page Top

#19 whyis it always located in areas close to the equator?

Dunno. To facilitate interstellar travel? To enable efficient transmission of guns germs & steel?

Posted by Alistaire Speger1159 2020-10-29 11:46|| 2020-10-29 11:46|| Front Page Top

#20 Ecrasez-les

Posted by Je Suis Charlie Martel 6492 2020-10-29 11:50|| 2020-10-29 11:50|| Front Page Top

#21 Ospas Dhahran 49, welcome aboard.

Harsh environment populations were originally peoples whose ancestors were outlaws and had no where else to flee to and their persecutors decided allowing them to live in hell (desert sands and the occasional oasis and adjacent seaside) was sufficient punishment. What they did not expect was the renegades adapted enough to venture from hell periodically to raid, pillage and subject. Population growth caused migration but not a change in immoral habits and traditions as they moved into civilization. But sometimes civilization experiences down times thus some nations leaders do the same things as those who live in harsh climates (i.e. Hitler during the depression).

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-10-29 12:04|| 2020-10-29 12:04|| Front Page Top

#22 Tipping point, anyone? What if World War III is fought in Europe and sees France and Germany on the same side, with most of the rest joining the parade in short order?

Posted by M. Murcek 2020-10-29 12:48|| 2020-10-29 12:48|| Front Page Top

#23 Problem with this opinion is all religion started in the same exact locale if DNA and anthropology are valid.

I guess you're saying atheists have it right( dreamed up in Europe), in which case study the history of atheist rule in the communist empire

Posted by Chesney Spoluse8538 2020-10-29 12:58|| 2020-10-29 12:58|| Front Page Top

#24 To Ebbo: I see your point, but I would say that the violent prone people were not outcast to the harsh environment, but rather they always were in the harsh places. The sterile environment pays a large part in creating the violent culture. What I think happened over time is that this population was inherently very small throughout the past 1000 years. The few that migrated away over centuries were very small in number as these harsh nomadic people (Bedu) could only maintain their numbers steady via by having females have an 8 or more fertility rate. Even consanguinity was enormously high. Google (Aramco medical studies on consanguinity. Lots of Locums in the 1950's to the Dharan hospital) Having 6 to 8 children without any dairy procuts to replace the calcium loss for women giving som many births meant that female and infant mortality rate were astronomical up until post WW2. Islam population in the Peninsular was very low, child mortality rates high and so the tradition of having 4 wives to ensure offspring make sense from just a survival perspective. Today its totally reversed. Saudi has one of the highest FALLING birth rates. From 8 per fertile female down to 3 within 4 decades.

Posted by Ospas Dhahran 49 2020-10-29 13:04|| 2020-10-29 13:04|| Front Page Top

#25 To Chesney: But all religions didn't start in the same location. Islam started far away down in Saudi. 1000 years ago the distance from Mecca / Medina to Jerusalem was like going to the moon. To look at distances with today's ability to cover it within hours is a huge mistake. Try walking on foot from these two cities today.. Even that's unthinkable. Budaism, , Hinduism, etc didn't alll originate in the Levant. The only two that had location in common was Chritianity and Judaism but even those two arose centuries apart. Culture place a greater role in determining how religion adapts and reacts to changes in technology. Today we are witnessing a harsh unforgiving "ideology" called Islam trying to adapt to the whirlwind of change it is experiencing. These attacks are the result of the inability for it to inculcate change. Its Achilles heel is its inability to adapt to rapid change, Hence it lashes out at all change regardless of wether it makes sense or not. One cannot reason with an illogically reasoned position. It falls on deaf ears. Please don't take offense in my rebuttal. I'm simply stating how see things. Regards.

Posted by Ospas Dhahran 49 2020-10-29 13:17|| 2020-10-29 13:17|| Front Page Top

#26 OD49. Your opinions and view points are informative, highly respected and valued 100% by me. Very Best Regards.

Posted by Angeater Omick2705 2020-10-29 13:28|| 2020-10-29 13:28|| Front Page Top

#27 ^ Respected as well.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2020-10-29 13:33|| 2020-10-29 13:33|| Front Page Top

#28 Interesting observations OD49

Posted by Frank G 2020-10-29 13:33|| 2020-10-29 13:33|| Front Page Top

#29 Thank you :)

Posted by Ospas Dhahran 49 2020-10-29 13:45|| 2020-10-29 13:45|| Front Page Top

#30

Posted by Jiling Gravitch9209 2020-10-29 14:04|| 2020-10-29 14:04|| Front Page Top

#31 To Jiling: Would please explain for us here what your reasoning is?

Posted by Ospas Dhahran 49 2020-10-29 14:29|| 2020-10-29 14:29|| Front Page Top

#32 Jiling does talk-to-text nonsense but is clearly into butt stuff

Posted by Frank G 2020-10-29 14:43|| 2020-10-29 14:43|| Front Page Top

#33 Jiling Gravitch9209 is stuck at the toilet training stage. He poops his little pellets, then disappears rather than converse.

Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-29 15:30|| 2020-10-29 15:30|| Front Page Top

#34

From the Daily Mail:

Tunisian migrant, named locally as 21-year-old Brahim Aoussaoui, beheaded an elderly parishioner and a male church warden, named as 45-year-old Christian Loques, before fatally stabbing a third woman described as of African origin and aged in her 30s.

Elsewhere a security guard was stabbed and wounded outside the French consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, while two other men were arrested - one while carrying a knife near a church in Sartrouville after his father reported he was about to carry out a Nice-style attack, and another who tried to board a train in Lyon carrying a long blade.

It was thought that police had foiled another Islamist attack in the town of Avignon when an armed man was shot dead by officers after refusing to drop his weapon. However, it later transpired the man was part of the far-Right, anti-Islam Identarian Movement, and had made a Nazi Salute. French media initially reported the man shouted 'Allahu Akbar', which turned out to be incorrect.

Aoussaoui is thought to have arrived in France via Italy, after being smuggled across the Mediterranean. According to Italian newspaper Ill Messaggero, he arrived on the island of Lampedusa on September 20 before being transferred to coronavirus quarantine.

He was then taken to a migrant centre on the Italian mainland on October 9, before being told to leave Italian territory and released. From there, he made his way to France. It is not clear precisely when he arrived.

Italian security services are now investigating why Aoussaoui was freed rather than detained awaiting deportation.

Meanwhile Eric Ciotti, a local councillor, tweeted: 'I have just asked President Macron to suspend all migratory flows and all asylum procedures, particularly at the Italian border. We must protect the French!'

In Sartrouville, north of Paris, a man was arrested around 1pm after his father called police and said his son had left home and planned 'to do as in Nice.'

Police stopped the man in his car near a local church, and Le Parisien reports that he was in possession of a knife. The car was searched, but nothing else was found.

Meanwhile in Lyon, an Afghan man in his 20s was arrested while trying to board a tram carrying a long knife. The man was known to French intelligence services.

In Avignon, a man armed with a handgun began threatening people in the Montfavet around 11.15am while shouting Allahu Akbar, France1 reported. Police rushed to the scene and confronted the man, who refused to drop his weapon. Police then shot the man with a Taser, which failed to stop him, so they opened fire with live ammunition, killing him.

French anti-terror investigators have announced they are leading the probe into the attack in Nice, but have not yet taken up the investigation in Avignon.

I’ll append the key points to 3dc’s article for future searchability, A pity that Identitarian gunslinger in Avignon got himself killed, but kudos to the Sartrouville father who reported his son to the police in time.

Posted by trailing wife 2020-10-29 15:49|| 2020-10-29 15:49|| Front Page Top

#35 Regarding the equator deal, it never really occurred to me that the original expansion of Islam was very East/West in nature.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-10-29 17:43|| 2020-10-29 17:43|| Front Page Top

#36 O. Dhahran: If you would press the key a couple of times once in awhile, you'd be much more readable.

Posted by KBK 2020-10-29 17:48|| 2020-10-29 17:48|| Front Page Top

#37 That should read "return" key, but the delimiters got swallowed by the UI.

Posted by KBK 2020-10-29 17:49|| 2020-10-29 17:49|| Front Page Top

#38 Not weighing in anywhere here, but there was a quote in the book Myth of the Andalusian Paradise, and let me paraphrase a bit here because I am without the book because, memorable - not just by me, but throughout history enough to make it into said book:

The Muslim mind is superior to the Christian (European) mind because their mind freezes in the cold; but all are superior to the African mind which melts in the heat.

Now before anyone starts throwing stuff at me, this is from a transcript explaining/justifying why European slaves went for a higher price than African slaves.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-10-29 18:05|| 2020-10-29 18:05|| Front Page Top

#39 Islam grows in Sweden. Its goal?
Next holiest place: the North Pole!
How comes it to pass
That the Arctic is grass?
Cold Mohammedans thrive on the dole.

Posted by Gerthudion Lover of the Heathen Rus4773 2020-10-29 21:55|| 2020-10-29 21:55|| Front Page Top

#40 Casinø Réel, ou, "All in!"

"Bonsoir!" hisses Monsieur Cimeterre,
Ce musulman très débonnaire,
As the French lose their heads...
Well, the blacks and the reds.
And the rest? Gallic shrug. "C'est la guerre."

Posted by Gerthudion Lover of the Heathen Rus4773 2020-10-29 22:05|| 2020-10-29 22:05|| Front Page Top

#41 MSNBC On Islamist Terror Attack In France: ‘We Don’t Know The Motive’ Yet…

Hey Islamists. Joe Scarborough says Mohammed is a pig effer. You going to take that?

Posted by Woodrow 2020-10-29 22:25|| 2020-10-29 22:25|| Front Page Top

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