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2005-10-28 Home Front: Politix

Scooter Libby indicted on 5 counts-Resigns

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Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-10-28 13:51|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Moral of the story: don't lie to a federal prosecutor. I read the indictment. I do not understand what in the world Libby was thinking. You cannot lie to the FBI and a special prosecutor and expect to get away with it.

Prediction: he plea-bargains and does a little jail time. He can't go to trial a) because he'll be convicted on all counts and go away for years and b) it will embarrass the hell out of Cheney, and Libby won't do that.

Posted by Steve White 2005-10-28 14:34|| 2005-10-28 14:34|| Front Page Top

#2 I guess only Democratic Presidents are allowed to lie under oath....

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-10-28 14:37|| 2005-10-28 14:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Nobody cares about Scooter Libby. Except maybe his Mom. He'll land on his feet in a cushy consultancy, and I will enjoy watching the Left chewing its arms off 'cos they can't have Karl's head on a pike outside the Media Matters HQ.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-28 14:38|| 2005-10-28 14:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Rove is the Teflon Texan. He will never, ever, be convicted of anything, IMHO.

EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-10-28 14:43|| 2005-10-28 14:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Whatever. Can we get back now to winning the WOT and preventing the Iranians from acquiring nukes, if they have't already?

Posted by Matt 2005-10-28 14:46|| 2005-10-28 14:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Scooter, meet Martha. A little needlepoint for the lonely days ahead?

Posted by john">john 2005-10-28 14:56|| 2005-10-28 14:56|| Front Page Top

#7 If he lied to the feds and under oath, shame on him and he'll have to pay the price. That's the difference between conservatives and liberals. The liberals thing the rules only apply to someone else, conservatives appy them equally.

If you don't want to answer, plead the 5th.

Posted by 2b 2005-10-28 15:33|| 2005-10-28 15:33|| Front Page Top

#8 I just listened to the stupid press conference and still don't have any idea:

1. Was Valerie Plame Wilson a covert agent at the time she was "outed"?

2. What ever happened to the original charges?

3. Is the grand jury still in operation?

4. Is the investigation continuing?

5. Are more indictments to come?

6. What the hell does baseball have to do with this?

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-10-28 15:35|| 2005-10-28 15:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Fitzy will leave those questions to be answered by the Sunday talking heads...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-28 15:47|| 2005-10-28 15:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Can somebody please go punch Harry Reid in the mouth? Just on general principles...

Posted by tu3031 2005-10-28 15:49|| 2005-10-28 15:49|| Front Page Top

#11 In politics, it's almost never the "crime", which has been shown not to be a crime (the"outing"), it's the "cover up" that generates the charges.

Now the howling begins anew.

Will Bush let the ankle-biters and shills and political whores of the Left derail him, or will he do as VDH suggests in the "Crossing the Rubicon" piece:

"He can choose either to be nicked and slowly bled to death in his second term, or to bare his fangs and like some cornered carnivore start slashing back."

Our asses hang in the balance of that question.

As for the Dhimmidonks, who would happily fuck the country into oblivion for petty political gain, I look forward to CWII and their ghastly and excruciatingly painful ends.

Posted by .com 2005-10-28 15:58|| 2005-10-28 15:58|| Front Page Top

#12 Surprised nobody's mentioned this yet, but ever noticed Valerie Plame? She's a hottie! Damn, she's aged well.

Posted by Bonanzabucks 2005-10-28 16:10|| 2005-10-28 16:10|| Front Page Top

#13 Fitzgerald was directly asked if Valerie was a covert agent. This is his response:

"At all relevant times from January 1, 2002 through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA, and her employment status was classified. Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilsonâs affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community.

The responsibilities of certain CIA employees required that their association with the CIA be kept secret; as a result, the fact that these individuals were employed by the CIA was classified. Disclosure of the fact that such individuals were employed by the CIA had the potential to damage the national security in ways that ranged from preventing the future use of those individuals in a covert capacity, to compromising intelligence-gathering methods and operations, and endangering the safety of CIA employees and those who dealt with them."

Yes, but was Valerie one of those "certain CIA employees"? He won't answer that because she wasn't. And "classified" does not make you covert.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-10-28 16:13|| 2005-10-28 16:13|| Front Page Top

#14

Say it ain't so!

Posted by eLarson 2005-10-28 16:59|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-10-28 16:59|| Front Page Top

#15

Yes, Joe seems to have married up. But as I had posted once before... don't we all?

Posted by eLarson 2005-10-28 17:00|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-10-28 17:00|| Front Page Top

#16 I've been wading through the leftie blogs (don't worry, I've had my shots and took a shower right afterwards). A fair bit of disappointment, tempered with the hope that this is but round 1.

I can't tell based on the press conference and indictment. Seems like Mr. Fitzgerald (we know him in Chicago, he's a top-notch prosecutor, and very professional) labored long and hard to produce this.

Libby: if he's guilty, he goes to jail. As said above, nobody gets a free pass for lying under oath.

Rove: who can say? The term of the present grand jury is over effective today. If Mr. Fitzgerald wants to go after anyone else, he has to empanel a new GJ. He could do that, of course, but that involves re-presenting the evidence. Is that merely an inconvenience or more substantial? My guess is, he goes after Libby and sees what happens before going back to a new GJ.

Hannert / Wurmser: why weren't they indicted? Same office as Libby, etc. Are they innocent, are they cooperating, or does Fitzgerald not have enough evidence?

Joe Wilson: liar, or frickin' liar? Looks like the latter.

Posted by Steve White 2005-10-28 17:03|| 2005-10-28 17:03|| Front Page Top

#17 It seems like Fitz is hoping to scare someone into giving him the goods on the leaker by sending Libby to jail. Else, why would he have waited till the last minute to bring the indictment?

Libby was foolish to have lied. However, as he was the only indictee, whatever he lied about must not have been that important as learning it did not provide Fitz with enough to indict the leaker, if any. Making Libby doubly foolish. I suspect Libby does fall on his sword to help the Pres and get this out of the papers and that is the end of it. Unfortunately it means another round of Wilson on TV.

Posted by Unavise Spugum9931 2005-10-28 17:12|| 2005-10-28 17:12|| Front Page Top

#18 I listened to part of the press conference this afternoon on NPR. The reporters and the NPR commentators were deperate to find some thin wedge to get Fitzgerald to actually answer anything about which they'd been making a fuss all this time. No bites. As Fitzgerald said, "All of us in this office have full time jobs back home that we want to get back to," or something to that effect. It didn't sound like there was any meat there at all.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-28 19:55|| 2005-10-28 19:55|| Front Page Top

#19 There's enough he spent at least a year longer than he wanted to tracking things down. He just can't get enough of a case to prove it to a jury. Otherwise he'd not be making all those hints about a new GJ.

Posted by Phuck Hupaith9235 2005-10-28 20:03|| 2005-10-28 20:03|| Front Page Top

#20 Maybe this Valerie Plame thing will see the light of day. There seems to be a lot of dirt going on behind the scenes.

The Dems are trying to find anything that might stick. They are using their usual methods to get ready for election time.

We need to keep our eye on the ball, i.e. the mideast.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-10-28 20:14|| 2005-10-28 20:14|| Front Page Top

#21 Sorry,you guys can't smear Fitzgerald like you smeared D.A. Earle.Fitz was appointed by a crazy liberal loonie by the name of...John Ashcroft.

Posted by King 2005-10-28 20:43|| 2005-10-28 20:43|| Front Page Top

#22 Where is all the smear on Fitzgerald King? It looks to me like you came here with a talking point, and sorry if Kos didn't provide you with the proper plan.

Go back to your hole.

Posted by Thoth 2005-10-28 21:26|| 2005-10-28 21:26|| Front Page Top

#23 a crazy liberal loonie

Nope, don't see anything of that nature. It's just you. Have you been weaning yourself off of any medications lately?

Posted by Thoth 2005-10-28 21:29|| 2005-10-28 21:29|| Front Page Top

#24 Y'all may want to check out Donald Sensing's take on the situation; it's at his weblog.

Posted by Phil 2005-10-28 21:59|| 2005-10-28 21:59|| Front Page Top

#25 This case is bigger than the leak of highly classified information. It is about how the Bush administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to bolster its case for the war in Iraq,"

Harry Reid is spinning himself into the ground. This case is, in fact, about much less than a leak of classified information. No one is charged with leaking anything. Nor does it have anything to do with Iraq. It's about Libby apparently trying to lie his way out of having to describe otherwise defensible behavior. (You can expect lots of Martha Stewart comparisons before this is over).

Reid gives off more than a whiff of desperation.

Posted by Baba Tutu 2005-10-28 22:09|| 2005-10-28 22:09|| Front Page Top

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