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2016-10-27 Home Front: Politix
Top US General Pleads With Troops Not To Revolt Over 2016
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Posted by Besoeker 2016-10-27 01:10|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top

#1 Dunford is not speaking to men of the ranks. He is speaking to the colonels and generals.

April 7, 1861 - Colonel Robert E. Lee resigns from the United States army two days after he was offered command of the Union army and three days after his native state, Virginia, seceded from the Union.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-10-27 01:18||   2016-10-27 01:18|| Front Page Top

#2 "our nation’s soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines should not wonder about the political leanings and motivations of their leaders."

People pretty much would like to know "what are we fighting this war for?". Especially when it comes to dying or living maimed for life for "the cause".
Posted by Snavish Trotsky7682 2016-10-27 02:07||   2016-10-27 02:07|| Front Page Top

#3 More wars or conflicts are fought over control of real estate, both at the tactical level and strategic levels. The operative word here being 'control.' Ideology and politics play a role, but it would appear to be in many cases, a minor role.

I still love the flag, my mother, apple pie, parades, John Philip Sousa music, and marching bands. Am I conflicted ?
Posted by Besoeker 2016-10-27 05:27||   2016-10-27 05:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Wait for Katyn forest instead.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-10-27 06:24||   2016-10-27 06:24|| Front Page Top

#5 "I was just obeying orders" General?

How many 06+ could pass a closed book test on the Constitution? That paper thingy you all took an oath to.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-10-27 07:15||   2016-10-27 07:15|| Front Page Top

#6 While Gov. Perry was still in consideration, I told Mrs. Conspiracy that this would be the most fascinating election this country has ever experienced.

Amazing things are now coming from amazing places.

To all who voted for Mr. Obama, thank you for the set-up.

Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-10-27 08:36||   2016-10-27 08:36|| Front Page Top

#7 What we must collectively guard against is allowing our institution to become politicized. Obama has already done this. General, you must have come on board after the purge.
Posted by JohnQC 2016-10-27 08:51||   2016-10-27 08:51|| Front Page Top

#8 From Duffleblog:
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Less than one week after taking over as the Marine Corps’ top officer, Gen. Joseph ‘Fighting Joe’ Dunford, is proposing controversial changes to Marine culture as the Corps continues to shift focus after more than a decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

His first order of business: Eliminate the phrase “Ooh-rah” from Marine lexicon.

Also to be done away with will be similar expressions like Err, Yut, and Rah, which sources say the Commandant considers a mockery of traditional Marine customs and courtesies. Finally, the term YAT-YAS will not only be forbidden but stricken from any historical records as Dunford feels it may be the most inane battle cry in the history of warfare.

Insiders claim the order stems from a physical altercation which took place immediately following his remarks at the change of command ceremony on Friday, which left a number of Marines with injuries ranging from eye gouges to one severe hematoma of the taint.

Witnesses to the incident say the new Commandant was being congratulated by various well wishers when he reportedly smacked a Master Gunnery Sgt. after he was addressed with “Ooh-rah sir.”

“Shut your filthy sewer, pogue,” growled the general as he struck the senior SNCO in the mouth with an open hand. “That expression is a weak affectation and I won’t stand for it.”

The commandant then turned and kicked the Color Sergeant of the Marine Corps in the groin. Marine officials claim Dunford was enraged that one member of the color guard fell out during the ceremony. A number of aides were also assaulted when they attempted to physically restrain the general and remove him from the scene.

“That’s what happens when we appoint an air winger as Commandant,” Dunford said, as he was finally escorted from the parade deck. “I will not allow this pernicious weakness to further infect my Corps.”

An All-Marine administrative message (ALMAR) is expected to be released this week officially banning “Ooh-rah” and making its utterance punishable under articles of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/10/general-dunford-oohrah-ban/#ixzz4OI1BF1Id
Posted by jvalentour 2016-10-27 08:54||   2016-10-27 08:54|| Front Page Top

#9 Funny how none of this seemed to be an issue in 2008, or 2012...
Posted by Pappy 2016-10-27 09:14||   2016-10-27 09:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Other than Duffleblog being a satire site, it still rings eerily believable.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2016-10-27 09:19||   2016-10-27 09:19|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm not ex-military, so I may be missing something. But you can't speak up even after you're retired?

Did anyone tell General Eisenhower? Lieutenant (j.g) Bush? Navy Lieutenant Carter? U.S. Grant, maybe? Or maybe I do get the point?
Posted by Bobby 2016-10-27 09:36||   2016-10-27 09:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Do they have an opinion on Colin Powell?
Posted by Frank G 2016-10-27 10:59||   2016-10-27 10:59|| Front Page Top

#13 Or these:

William J. Crowe, Jr.
Wesley Clark
Paul Eaton
Donald J. Guter
Michael D. Lumpkin
John B. Nathman

Probably could toss in a couple of other names as well.
Posted by Pappy 2016-10-27 11:50||   2016-10-27 11:50|| Front Page Top

#14 Gen Dunford falls in line as one of the most political General officers in this generation. For him to dictate this to the retired is an attempt to segregate a class of people already somewhat isolated, US military members, as insignificant and not worthy of taking place in our democracy. His whole context supports the Dems, Obama and Hillary anyway, belief that the military are nothing more than servants to their cause, not defenders of the constitution.
Posted by 49 Pan 2016-10-27 13:17||   2016-10-27 13:17|| Front Page Top

#15 Re #11: Bobby, as far as I know, retired military members are free to speak their minds on political issues. They should not do so in uniform, or make it appear that they are speaking for their service.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2016-10-27 13:45||   2016-10-27 13:45|| Front Page Top

#16 I get in enough trouble speaking as a civvie; don't need to be in uniform to make that happen.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2016-10-27 14:39||   2016-10-27 14:39|| Front Page Top

#17 As I recall, the oath is to protect and defend the Constitution.
Posted by ed in texas 2016-10-27 20:06||   2016-10-27 20:06|| Front Page Top

#18 "Written by old white men a long time ago."
Posted by Frank G 2016-10-27 21:55||   2016-10-27 21:55|| Front Page Top

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