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2007-10-25 Fifth Column

The Secret History of the Impending War with Iran That the White House Doesn't Want You to Know

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Posted by lotp 2007-10-25 08:29|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top
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#1 I gave up when I realized there were five pages of this wank.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-10-25 08:53|| 2007-10-25 08:53|| Front Page Top

#2 Didn't they also originally tout Wilson and Plame as being administration insiders who became disgruntled and left, vowing to "expose the system"?

One of the biggest problems CIA and State have is that their foreign interest sections are or were populated with "philes", who love their study interest nation as much or more than the US.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-10-25 09:23|| 2007-10-25 09:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Clintonite holdovers. Esquire magazine. Enough said. Might as well be Debkafile or WND.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-10-25 10:10|| 2007-10-25 10:10|| Front Page Top

#4 IMpending war?

This war began back in 1978. Its like Al Qauedo - people in the US are only now realizing that Iran has been at war with us for decades.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-10-25 10:14|| 2007-10-25 10:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Secret history? BS. These bone-headed Iranians declared war on us long ago. Is the press just finding out? Pathetic MSM. We should have taken care of the problem under Carter. However, he had no testicular fortitude. We wouldn't have the problem today if he had done something then. Take away his Nobel Peace Prize for formenting war in the mideast.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-10-25 11:18|| 2007-10-25 11:18|| Front Page Top

#6 It were I that submitted. I thought them to be handwringers but worth the read.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-10-25 11:44|| 2007-10-25 11:44|| Front Page Top

#7 When the 82nd Airborne starts doing combat jumps in tuxedos, I'll be interested in what Esquire has to say...

Posted by tu3031 2007-10-25 11:48|| 2007-10-25 11:48|| Front Page Top

#8 Unlike Iraq I don't believe there will be any attempt to take/occupy/hold ground in Iran. We might provide no-fly zones over some ethnic groups in the hopes of overthrowing the Iranian government or even shattering them into multiple countries, but we would certainly avoid any kind of long invasion.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-25 11:48|| 2007-10-25 11:48|| Front Page Top

#9 Eiter us or the Israleis are gonna do the big boom on the nuke facilities sooner or later... Watch this space for updates. Print is cheap.... the old saying, "Actions speak louder than words", applies here...

Posted by BigEd 2007-10-25 12:18|| 2007-10-25 12:18|| Front Page Top

#10 #8: Unlike Iraq I don't believe there will be any attempt to take/occupy/hold ground in Iran

After wat has been experienced in Iraq, I suspect you can safely take that assessment to the bank.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-10-25 12:41|| 2007-10-25 12:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Unlike Iraq I don't believe there will be any attempt to take/occupy/hold ground in Iran.

If Afghanistan and Iraq have taught us one single thing, it is that the era of nation-building is over now and for all time. Especially so in Muslim lands as these ungrateful bastards wouldn't know kindness if it bit them on the neck. Rebuilding nations that subsequently adopt shari'a law is little different from financing the construction and operation of terrorist training camps.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-25 12:51|| 2007-10-25 12:51|| Front Page Top

#12 Two former high-ranking policy experts from the Bush Administration say the U.S. has been gearing up for a war with Iran for years . . .

I goddamn HOPE SO! We have a whole Pentagon full of people who get paid to plan and prepare for possible wars. If they're not preparing for war with Iran and North Korea and Venezuela and every other tyrrany on the planet, they need to be court-martialed for deriliction of duty.

Posted by Mike 2007-10-25 13:08|| 2007-10-25 13:08|| Front Page Top

#13 Planning is great, but I'd like to see some implementation, thank you very much. We need to crush Iran's military capability, destroy its oil infrastructure, take out its nuclear operations, and "level the playing field" and everything else in Qom. Destroy their ports and harbors, level Khark Island, destroy their rail links to Russia, and completely isolate them from all imports and exports. Let them feed themselves or starve. I'll bet on the latter, while they whine to the rest of the world.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-10-25 13:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-10-25 13:51|| Front Page Top

#14 #7 When the 82nd Airborne starts doing combat jumps in tuxedos, I'll be interested in what Esquire has to say...
Posted by: tu3031 2007-10-25 11:48

I hope the US Army uniformed board never gets wind of this idea.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-10-25 14:00|| 2007-10-25 14:00|| Front Page Top

#15 Ssshhhhh. Next they'll be divulging the double super secrets on War Plans Red and Green. Been in the planning stages for years.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-10-25 14:01|| 2007-10-25 14:01|| Front Page Top

#16 Rebuilding nations that subsequently adopt shari'a law is little different from financing the construction and operation of terrorist training camps.

Or liberating France.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-10-25 14:51|| 2007-10-25 14:51|| Front Page Top

#17 Old Spook is right: Ayatollah aggression against America began in 1978. Hopefully, it will at long last be engaged, when winter cold hits the Iran terrorist entity. Freeze them into surrender.

Posted by Titus Glimble3990 2007-10-25 15:01|| 2007-10-25 15:01|| Front Page Top

#18 The problem with occupation in Muslim lands, even helpful occupation is that eventually you have to leave and at that point the bad guys will take credit for driving you out no matter how badly they were defeated and humiliated and killed in large numbers.

The Islamic world deals with a different reality altogether. It is one reason the nations are total failures by every way we judge such things (except oil production). Israel discovered that the hard way when they pulled out of Lebanon the first time.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-25 15:19|| 2007-10-25 15:19|| Front Page Top

#19 PAYVAND > Pert says that Iran's may stop its oil exports circa 2015, as based on present rates, while World/Global Oil Production will decline by 1/2 by 2030. There can be NO IRAN-CENTRIC GLOBAL ISLAMIC-JIHADIST-ISLAMIST STATE WITHOUT AMPLE SUPPLIES OF ENERGY TO SUPPOR ITS AGENDUMS.
WAR > will likely occur as Radical Iran attempts to save itself = SAVE ITS "REVOLUTION" from IMPLOSION + FULFILL ISLAMIST FUNDAMETALISM'S PERCEIVED "MANIFEST DESTINY" VV REGION + WORLD.
Year 2015 or even 2030 + NO OIL EXPORTS/OIL CATACLYSM > unlikely Radical Iran can do both.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-10-25 19:36|| 2007-10-25 19:36|| Front Page Top

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