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2022-10-13 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia To ‘Modernize' 800 Vintage T-62 Tanks Due To Ukraine Losses: Report
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Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-13 00:01|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Media only can accurately estimate Russia losses whereas Ukrainian losses minuscule. Just doing as America sending equipment near retirement from active service. Notice Russia had depleted ammunition and rockets back in February or March. Mystery is what they are throwing these last several days. Some say 80 rockets and others 300 a day. The gloves are off now and Russia and its many allies are now working together. This NATO and USA effort has been a severe miscalculation. Then they still have no political efforts to resolve this war but only continue. Only political changes in leadership will USA or NATO make any attempt of rapprochement.
Posted by Dale 2022-10-13 03:36||   2022-10-13 03:36|| Front Page Top

#2  In response, Ukraine resurrects the Boys antitank rifle.

The Red Army used an antitank rifle during WWII, but not the Boys.
Posted by badanov 2022-10-13 06:32||   2022-10-13 06:32|| Front Page Top

#3 They going to glue on the cardboard make believe reactive armor?
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-10-13 09:24||   2022-10-13 09:24|| Front Page Top

#4 The modern tanks got crushed, how well will the older ones do?

Seems the world is clearing out the inventories of weapons new and old. The question is do they all have money to restock the inventories with new stuff when its all over.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-10-13 11:43||   2022-10-13 11:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Cold War tanks for a revived Cold War that is suddenly getting a lot hotter.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-10-13 12:36||   2022-10-13 12:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Barrel being mined, but not at bottom scraping yet. Russia still offers T55's for sale in the third world, so I figure they have a whole lot of T62's to work through.
Posted by ed in texas 2022-10-13 17:02||   2022-10-13 17:02|| Front Page Top

#7 Any one got a spare sPzB 41 lyin' around?
Posted by Rex Mundi 2022-10-13 17:29||   2022-10-13 17:29|| Front Page Top

#8 by the time the refurbished tanks are ready there may be almost no trained armor platoons left alive and uninjured
Posted by Lord Garth 2022-10-13 18:27||   2022-10-13 18:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Who said anything about refurbishment
Modernizing to a Russian means fuel and ammunition maybe stenciling on new unit designation
A T-62 is dead meat in today’s battlefield environment
I sometimes think the tank has been rendered obsolete and we are back to Chancellorsville
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2022-10-13 18:44||   2022-10-13 18:44|| Front Page Top

#10 The modern tanks got crushed, how well will the older ones do?

It depends on what you do with them. Not the first choice for tank v tank, but dug in, hull down, they might make nifty mobile pillboxes. The Russians are going to be playing a lot of defense trying to hold on to what they have now.
Posted by SteveS 2022-10-13 19:46||   2022-10-13 19:46|| Front Page Top

#11  The modern tanks got crushed, how well will the older ones do?
Direct fire support in built up areas they will work just as well as the modern stuff ...until you run out of Chechens to do the house by house assaults I suppose. Improvise some reactive armor and go to it.
Posted by magpie 2022-10-13 20:05||   2022-10-13 20:05|| Front Page Top

#12 The modern tanks got crushed, how well will the older ones do?

RPGs and AT-4s will go the though the 4" of frontal armor like butter. On the other hand, no auto loader so not as many turret toss competitors. Youtube hardest hit.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-13 20:15||   2022-10-13 20:15|| Front Page Top

#13 The Red Army used an antitank rifle during WWII, but not the Boys.

Best Foghorn Leghorn voice: It's a joke, son.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-13 21:38||   2022-10-13 21:38|| Front Page Top

#14 Wikipedia seys: Russia – At least 2,000 were inherited from the Soviet Union. 761 were in active service in 1995. 191 were in active service and 1,929 in storage as of 2000. During 2013 all the tanks of the model and its modifications were allegedly scrapped – later it was found this was not true, as Russia reactivated numerous T-62s to resupply the Syrian Army. In 2022, Russia sent T-62 tanks to reinforce the Southern Ukraine offensive in Zaporizhzhia Oblast during the 2022 Russian Invasion of Ukraine; reportedly up to 600 T-62s were taken out of long-term storage.

It looks like they are taking the entire inventory in use 30 years ago and trying to upgrade them. Russian night vision gear is pretty awful and the French stuff on the T-80s and T-90s embargoed. So the Russian upgrade is probably on par with what is on their upgraded T-72s.

The ERA tiles and Drozd won't provide protect against top attack missiles.
Posted by Snash Shairt9621 2022-10-13 21:53||   2022-10-13 21:53|| Front Page Top

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