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2005-10-10 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2005-10-10 13:07|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sh*t! I stayed at Glenn for a couple of years before getting married!

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2005-10-10 13:28|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2005-10-10 13:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Wear yer #2 Hobnail boots, guys.

Posted by .com 2005-10-10 13:41|| 2005-10-10 13:41|| Front Page Top

#3 First OU now GT. They want our kids dead. This pisses me off!!

Posted by RBS 2005-10-10 13:41|| 2005-10-10 13:41|| Front Page Top

#4 First OU now GT. They want our kids dead. This pisses me off!!

Posted by RBS 2005-10-10 13:48|| 2005-10-10 13:48|| Front Page Top

#5 Early in the first quarter of the Texas-OU game this past Saturday, ABC TV lost their signal from the stadium. At the moment it happened the TV went to static and my first thought was some goat lover had continued the attack from Norman the week before.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats 2005-10-10 13:51|| 2005-10-10 13:51|| Front Page Top

#6 I have only heard one short blip about the OU incident. Why isn't this being talked about?

Posted by RGBS 2005-10-10 14:00|| 2005-10-10 14:00|| Front Page Top

#7 RGBS - lots of people are talking about it in blogs. The MSM on the other hand is purposefully (IMHO) ignoring it since the 'student' was deep into Islam and had (according to stories) attempted to enter the stadium before but fled when security wanted to search his backpack.

The MSM reported it as a simple sucicide and don't want to report it as a failed islamic suicide-bomber.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-10-10 14:12|| 2005-10-10 14:12|| Front Page Top

#8 I have only heard one short blip about the OU incident. Why isn't this being talked about?

Because the evidence it was a terrorist attack is overwhelming, but inconclusive. The FBI doesn't want to "speculate" -- meaning they don't want to state the obvious -- so they pout when someone points out the facts. Furthermore, the school doesn't want to endanger the cash cow of foreign students, so they're treating anyone who voices a suspicion as if they'd actually called for a lynching.

(Over at the Jawa Report, a reader from OU pointed out that the buses the guy was next to are used to shuttle fans to and from the only sizeable parking lot. After the game, the buses would have been packed, beyond standing room only.

Therefore, the bomber wouldn't have had to deal with stadium security; just get on the bus after the game lets out, sit or stand near the middle, and let the victims pack around him.)

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-10 14:17|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-10 14:17|| Front Page Top

#9 CrazyFool-The blogs are the only place I have read anything of value about this, but why hasn't the media broke this story wide open. It's the press, they can't be forced to keep quiet. What is the deal!?!

Posted by RGBS 2005-10-10 14:20|| 2005-10-10 14:20|| Front Page Top

#10 The answer to why the MSM won't run the story is simple. They are NOT on our side. They are on the side of America's enemies and have no loyalty or affection for our country. To put it mildly, they are treasonous bastards who should be rounded up and put on trial for their treason.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2005-10-10 14:25|| 2005-10-10 14:25|| Front Page Top

#11 It doesn't fit the script. The script that sez the neocons and Rethuglicans invented a mythical militant Islam in order to convince the sheeple to pay for and fight in a war that profits Bush's oil buddies and Cheney's Halliburton pals.

The script that sez only the Left has The Truth and that the Truth is being brutally suppressed by mass graves full of NPR commentators and Reuters photographers.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-10 14:26|| 2005-10-10 14:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Or, what Silentbrick said.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-10 14:27|| 2005-10-10 14:27|| Front Page Top

#13 On this incident, though, let's be cautious. There are plenty of non-jihadi nutjobs out there. This could as easily be a jilted lover.

But I think the APD is perfectly correct in saying it's a "terrorist act". The act is terrorist, regardless of the motivations.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-10 14:41|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-10 14:41|| Front Page Top

#14 Hey Robert, just who the hell do you work for?

Posted by RGBS 2005-10-10 14:46|| 2005-10-10 14:46|| Front Page Top

#15 Four words, Richard Jewell

Posted by Shipman 2005-10-10 14:50|| 2005-10-10 14:50|| Front Page Top

#16 FOX made a brief mention of it but said they were waiting for an "appropriate time". I took this to mean they were hushed up. I really found the OU similarities interesting, as it was the same mosque as the ME accomplices of McVeigh apparently attended, he tried to buy the same fertilizer as was used in OK City, and ended up using Mother of Satan as in London. The reporter that wrote a book about the bombing (Jayna Davis)was put-off by the FBI who still insists it was a lone nut but then McVeigh's execution was the only thing the Clinton Admin made sure was done in a timely way. I just hope it is because of an ongoing investigation this being kept quiet.

Posted by Danielle 2005-10-10 14:52|| 2005-10-10 14:52|| Front Page Top

#17 Hey Robert, just who the hell do you work for?

Pardon?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-10 15:03|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-10 15:03|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't think this the time to be cautious. This Islamic movement has oozed it's way into the very fiber of our culture. It's not okay to be cautious when it's so obivious that the enemy is brainwashing our kids. They are profiling our kids; looking for the ones who are detatched, lonely, and emotionally weak. They don't care about our kids. They seek out the ones that need to be nurtured, give them what they crave (acceptance), and load them up with accolades. It's a sick plot. No, I don't think this is a time to be cautious, Robert.

Posted by RGBS 2005-10-10 15:25|| 2005-10-10 15:25|| Front Page Top

#19 I just hope it is because of an ongoing investigation this being kept quiet.

Back when I was into crime chat, investigations were always handled this way. I understand why the Feds don't want information about their investigation to get out. Information is power and they want to keep all of it to themselves. But I believe that overall that is extremely counterproductive. Witness Megans law. More children were saved by releasing as much information to the public as quicky as possible than ever was accomplished by greedily hoarding it to themselves.

I think their [our] interests would be better served by learning how to mine the excess data that comes in for valid tips than it would be to act like dogs in the manger with the few tips they uncover themselves. But that concept is foreign to the investigators and would require a whole cultural change for them to grasp it.

Posted by 2b 2005-10-10 15:31|| 2005-10-10 15:31|| Front Page Top

#20 No, I don't think this is a time to be cautious, Robert.

RGBS, yes, it is. About this case. Let's wait to hear more evidence. It could just be a jilted lover, or an eco freak, or whoever.

Even in the OU case, we don't have all the information; it could be he really was a nutcase acting alone, not intending to hurt anyone. The information we have doesn't indicate that, but we don't have all the information.

Does that mean I think we shouldn't do anything about the jihadis? No. I think we need to be more frank about their goals, the prevalence of the jihadi attitude even (especially?) among Muslims in the west, and their activities. I think we need the FBI (for example) to stop sitting on information in cases like the OU bomb, because the suspicion of political correctness makes it appear they're covering things up.

I think we need a hell of a lot more honesty, and a hell of a lot more suspicion of the jihadi's support network.

I just don't think we need to conclude that everything that goes boom was done in the name of Allah.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-10 15:34|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-10 15:34|| Front Page Top

#21 RGBS - the MSM has a long history of this type of thing.

During the russian school takeover (Beslin?) the MSM went out of their way to protray the f-kers as 'hostage-takers' or 'criminals' even though they were -to-a-person- islamic extreamist and terrorists who purposefully target innocent civilians.

Nor did the MSM ever mention the gang-rape of teenage hostages or bayonetting of babies. This would show the terrorists in a bad light (and not as the 'freedom-fighter' 'miniutemen' who just need to be appeased and 'understood' as the left/MSM love to call them).

What about the deliberate murder of innocent jewish children? Last year these brave 'lions of Islam' murdered in cold blood a 8-month-pregant woman and her three daughters (all under 10) just for driving between two settlements. The MSM never even mentioned it.

But just fart in the presence of an islamic murderer and terrorist in GITMO and the MSM is all over it for months-on-end. Newsweek anyone?

I won't go into the islamic arab government-assisted murder and rapes against black muslims in Dalfur, Sudan (nor the Sudan slave trade of non-muslims), The murders and burning of churches in Indonesia (except where the christians have dared to defend themselves - and then its protrayed by the MSM as the Christian's fault) or the Islamic terrorism currently going on in southern Thailand.

All of which are, as much as possible, ignored by the MSM. There is a pattern here. A glaring pattern. This is not by chance but deliberate design.

The MSM isn't being 'balanced' - they are actively on the other side.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-10-10 15:42|| 2005-10-10 15:42|| Front Page Top

#22 Why, because he was a white kid from middle America studying to be an engineer at a university located in the Bible Belt? This young man was seduced in the same way these crazy rag-heads were when they were young. "Oh come with us, learn of Allah, sacrifice yourself, go to heaven and lay with more women that you will have the energy for, your worth is endless, and only Allah can provide the rewards you deserve."

Our youth are very vulnerable. College is a time for learning, experimenting, and simply finding out what you stand for. If kids don't already know what they stand for before they leave the nest, they are in danger of being persuades by any charasmatic force they come into contact with ranging from sex, drugs, and yes even the lures of Allah!

Posted by RGBS 2005-10-10 15:52|| 2005-10-10 15:52|| Front Page Top

#23 RGBS, I don't know how long you've been lurking here, but this is the first day I've seen you post. This particular theme is one we've been discussing since the first day (about 3.5 years ago and where has the time gone?) that Fred opened his blog for comments. We all recognize the need for haste but grudgingly admit the need for accuracy as well. Robert C. has been fighting the good fight along with the rest of us for quite awhile now. Please don't be quite so hasty in calling folks out until you've been here awhile. Thanks, and welcome to RB.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-10 16:05|| 2005-10-10 16:05|| Front Page Top

#24 This sounds more time a Drano or baking soda bomb than one made from explosives, even gunpowder. Otherwise the custodian would not be with limb or alive. Unfortunately, such things are pretty common at universities, though mostly during finals. I bet the OU bomb publicity gave ideas to some (mental) juveniles who should know better.

Posted by ed 2005-10-10 16:20|| 2005-10-10 16:20|| Front Page Top

#25 This sounds more time a Drano or baking soda bomb than one made from explosives, even gunpowder.

Yep and you've got to be a bit careful about labeling relatively small campus happenings as "terrorist incidents". I recall purchasing some "firecrackers" in Tijuana many years ago their subsequently being used to blast the large plastic letters off the front of a rival fraternity house. These days I'd probably get 20-life for a prank like that.

Posted by AzCat 2005-10-10 19:06|| 2005-10-10 19:06|| Front Page Top

#26 First OU now GT. They want our kids dead. This pisses me off!! Me too. Why not Yale, or Princeton, or Dartmouth dammit! Oh, and be a good fellow and leave Harvard alone now, right?

/inappropriate low humor off

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2005-10-10 19:33|| 2005-10-10 19:33|| Front Page Top

#27 Perhaps the (in)famous Berkeley prof is finally getting the intifada he called for.

Posted by AzCat 2005-10-10 20:17|| 2005-10-10 20:17|| Front Page Top

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