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2006-10-06 Europe
Europe Is Growing Skeptical Of Dialogue With Muslims
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2006-10-06 11:14|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "My European tour made it eminently clear that Western Europeans — if not their more liberal, compromised ruling and business elites — believe that for Muslims living in the West, it's either Western ways or the highway."

That's why I call the EU a coup process.
Posted by Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2006-10-06 12:34||   2006-10-06 12:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Time will tell.
Posted by Evil Elvis 2006-10-06 12:58||   2006-10-06 12:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Cheapest solution is to provide all of the muzzies a government subsidised, free ticket to the rat hole of their origin.
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2006-10-06 12:58||   2006-10-06 12:58|| Front Page Top

#4 "Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia share the same aspirations to dominate, wage war,"

WTF? Hosni just wants to protect his rule in Egypt. Anything else is just cover for that. This is nonsense.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-10-06 13:09||   2006-10-06 13:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Hmmm. A tiny glimmer of light in the dark night, or unadulterated BS? Time will tell indeed.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-06 13:10||   2006-10-06 13:10|| Front Page Top

#6 It would be awfully helpful if the author is correct.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-10-06 13:10||   2006-10-06 13:10|| Front Page Top

#7 "Every other week, parliaments are restricting the freedom of expression of Muslim fundamentalists, preachers, and madrassas, and questioning every value that militant Islam has attempted to sneak into the Continent over the past 20 years."

none of which is contradictory to dialogue with the rest of the muslim world. Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-10-06 13:17||   2006-10-06 13:17|| Front Page Top

#8 none of which is contradictory to dialogue with the rest of the muslim world.

liberalhawk, just the fact of how you believe that "dialogue with the rest of the Muslim world" will accomplish anything at all indicates an IV drip of Kool-Aid somewhere. After all, just look at how Pope Benedict's attempt at "dialogue" has gone so very well. His efforts have earned him exactly how many death threats?

Islam has only one use for "dialogue". They call it "hudna". Look at Iran. Look at the Palestinians. Now look at the massive support throughout the Muslim world for both of these intolerable situations and how the Iranians and Palestinians employ every single kind of deceit imaginable to attain their ends. This is not just clerical or doctrinal support, it is grass-roots, ground-swell support at the individual level. Support for the way Iran and the Palestinians employ terrorism, threats, lies, deception, disinformation and every other moral and ethical sleight-of-hand they can come up with. Islamic "dialogue" is hudna and nothing else.

Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.

Then why do they continue to attend the Saudi financed mosques with their Saudi financed wahabbist cleric who so routinely preach "death to America" and "death to the kuffar"? Why are they not regularly boycotting these fountains of hate speech and denouncing the cleris who spew it? Why didn't they take to the streets waving the usual vomit of hateful cartoons shit out in fistfuls by the Saudi and Arab daily press when Denmark was being condemned and threatened? You come across as delusional. Your post over in the thread about Kriss Donald's murder goes a long way towards proving it.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-06 15:01||   2006-10-06 15:01|| Front Page Top

#9 The dialogue is over. The time for action is closing in.

This article is interesting. He doesn't say that he AGREES with Europe's response. In fact, one could read this article with a view that the European response is the target of his "time for action."
Posted by PlanetDan 2006-10-06 15:11||   2006-10-06 15:11|| Front Page Top

#10 WTF? Hosni just wants to protect his rule in Egypt. Anything else is just cover for that. This is nonsense.
liberalhawk, would you be interested in buying some interest in the Brooklyn bridge?
Posted by gromgoru 2006-10-06 17:07||   2006-10-06 17:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.


Just don't ask them so say so publically.

Or to criticize the actions of the fundamentalists.

Or to defend the rights of others to worship as they please.

Or to stand up for a free press.

Or to decry acts of violence.

Or to put any kind of meaningful action behind their wishes.

But other than that, I'm sure you're right--"they want to see the fundamentalists thrown out."
Posted by Crusader 2006-10-06 17:08||   2006-10-06 17:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Spot on, Crusader.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-06 17:41||   2006-10-06 17:41|| Front Page Top

#13 That's not what the European press or the European elites are saying. Don't know who the author was talking to, but it wasn't anyone with either power or a media soapbox in Europe. The elites are either spewing political correctness or trying to negotiate surrender.
Posted by DMFD 2006-10-06 20:03||   2006-10-06 20:03|| Front Page Top

#14 Many muslims in Europe, AFAICT, want to see the fundamentalists thrown out.

You can tell by how hard they work to accomplish it.

Been sniffing glue again, LH?
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-10-06 20:46|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-10-06 20:46|| Front Page Top

#15 C'mon, we all know dialog rulez, deeds are so low-brow, RC.
Posted by .com 2006-10-06 20:50||   2006-10-06 20:50|| Front Page Top

#16 .com, if you liked this thread, you'll loooove this one:

UK: Boy snatched off street, set alight and murdered for being white
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-06 22:32||   2006-10-06 22:32|| Front Page Top

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