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Westboro "Church" plans to protest at Amish victims' funerals
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Posted by Frank G 2006-10-04 08:49|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "Isn't it time for the police to step aside and let a little street justice happen?"

Long past time, in my opinion.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-10-04 09:10||   2006-10-04 09:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Just when you think Fred and the family have reached the bottom of the slime pit...they press on.
Posted by tu3031 2006-10-04 09:20||   2006-10-04 09:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Westboro Baptist Church said it is "continuing to pray for even worse punishment upon Pennsylvania."

I've read a good bit of the Good Book and somehow don't think that's what The Big Guy had in mind.
Posted by Bobby 2006-10-04 09:26||   2006-10-04 09:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Why couldn't this wacko hit the Westboro church?
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2006-10-04 09:29||   2006-10-04 09:29|| Front Page Top

#5 He needs a good trampling.
Posted by Super Hose 2006-10-04 09:44||   2006-10-04 09:44|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't any of these bastards have jobs?
Posted by RWV 2006-10-04 09:50||   2006-10-04 09:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Bring a whip.
Posted by newc">newc  2006-10-04 10:11||   2006-10-04 10:11|| Front Page Top

#8 These asshats actually believe they can call down the wrath of God because they don't like Ed Rendell?

There's no essential difference between them and muslim terrorists who apparently can call down the wrath of Allah on whomever they disagree with.

They are NOT Christian. They are NOT Baptist. We know 'em when we see 'em.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-04 10:13||   2006-10-04 10:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Tar and feathers.
Posted by SR-71 2006-10-04 10:15||   2006-10-04 10:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Their main income generator, or "job" for them is to provoke someone into reacting violently, and then filing for damages... remember, most of the adults in this disgusting clan are qualified as lawyers. This latest little caper might fall rather flat for several reasons (aside from the total basic sliminess of it all)... one of them being that the Amish are very strictly non-violent, and are not given to responding violently to any sort of provocation. The second thing is (as reported in several different news sources) that tradionally, Amish funerals and other religious services are held in private homes. On private property... there are no public church buildings or venues involved. Nothing for the Phelps clan to batten onto, like a particularly thirsty tick.
Don't think Patriot Riders will be be needed, in this case.
Posted by Sgt. Mom 2006-10-04 10:15|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com]  2006-10-04 10:15|| Front Page Top

#11 "Ticks" suites them quite well. Thank you SGT mom.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-10-04 10:19||   2006-10-04 10:19|| Front Page Top

#12 You're welcome. I live to serve!
Posted by Sgt. Mom 2006-10-04 10:30|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com]  2006-10-04 10:30|| Front Page Top

#13 I wish someone would send a stampede their way. Really. Can't they plant a bunch of polar bears in the area that day?
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-04 10:31||   2006-10-04 10:31|| Front Page Top

#14 Hopefully the liberals who seem to have delighted in Phelps disrupting soldiers funerals will get a glimpse of how disgusting their glee was. Nah.
Posted by Clkethel OHlkdj 2006-10-04 11:27||   2006-10-04 11:27|| Front Page Top

#15 I'm remembering that really great scene from Witness where Harrison Ford, in full Amish dress, punches out some redneck yob.
Posted by Mike 2006-10-04 11:43||   2006-10-04 11:43|| Front Page Top

#16 If they are lawyers why can't someone disbar them.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-04 12:50||   2006-10-04 12:50|| Front Page Top

#17 Hopefully the liberals who seem to have delighted in Phelps disrupting soldiers funerals will get a glimpse of how disgusting their glee was. Nah.

You got a cite for that? I have never heard anybody, right or left, say a good word for Phelps.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2006-10-04 13:15||   2006-10-04 13:15|| Front Page Top

#18 I just wish they call it a cult instead of a Baptist
church he is no Baptist. That man is the embodiment of a demon.
Posted by djohn66 2006-10-04 13:23||   2006-10-04 13:23|| Front Page Top

#19 I haven't seen any liberals that like Phelps. Except maybe Algore.

I just heard they are backing out of this protest. Probably found out the Amish wouldn't be bugged out over the them.
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-04 13:57||   2006-10-04 13:57|| Front Page Top

#20 I have had enough! Blitzen dear Lord, and lots of it should these vermin protestors come. Let bolts from the heavens smite them all. Let your wrath be upon them and your steadfast mercy be upon the peaceful Amish families who grieve.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-10-04 14:08||   2006-10-04 14:08|| Front Page Top

#21 Some radio guy offered them an hour on the air if they'd pull the protest. Too bad. It's getting close to huntin season in PA and lots would enjoy some early targets of opportunity.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-10-04 14:08||   2006-10-04 14:08|| Front Page Top

#22 I think it was Mike Gallagher, if what I heard is correct.
Posted by Thoth 2006-10-04 14:45||   2006-10-04 14:45|| Front Page Top

#23 I heard on the radio news that the Amish forgive him.
I can't. I can't fathom forgiving the bastard. I hate what he did, and I hate him.
The Amish make me feel that I am a human of a lesser breed. There is a lesson here, but I can't reach it, I can't grasp it, I can't incorporate it into my soul. All I have is sorrow beyond words and the hate of him who brought it.
Posted by wxjames 2006-10-04 15:02||   2006-10-04 15:02|| Front Page Top

#24 Well you wouldn't be the first person to have a hard time comprehending the concept of Christian forgiveness, wxjames. I've had trouble wrapping my pea brain around that one since 1981, the year I became a Christian.

Not that I have even grasped the tip of the iceberg, but one thing that helps me comprehend it is this: How much did God have to forgive me for? Knowing he forgives me for so much, how can I do any less?

This doesn't fully grasp it of course. This kind of forgiveness is incomprehensible to the average joe, and only partly comprehensible by the average Christian.

Interesting side note that's more back on topic: Jesus forgave the most horrible of crimes, and even forgave the men that nailed him to the cross. It's not recorded however, that he ever forgave the religious hypocrites of his day, who presumed to speak for God while preaching their hatred and disdain for the 'unwashed' masses. So-called 'pastor' Phelps should take note of that. Let's just say, I wouldn't want to be him.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-04 15:17||   2006-10-04 15:17|| Front Page Top

#25 At some point they are going to push it to far and get killed and the killer will have a somewhat reasonable case for temporary insanity.

They are a foul group.
Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-04 15:19||   2006-10-04 15:19|| Front Page Top

#26 It will be easy to forgive that killer.

There was a movie in the alternative theater. Can't remember the name. Was about a bus that drives off the road killing the children. The ambulance chasing lawyer tries to sign up the parents as clients to soothe their wounds with cash (as well as his own pockets). On the sidelines, his drug addicted daughter who just wants cash from him is spiralling downward. He loves her and wants to to something, anything to help her, but she really just wants his cash so she can get high.

My point is that it was a good movie. Typical alternative flick -but what I got out it was how it was a mistake to let grief be overtaken by greed and revenge. It was very realistic and you could see how those who were able to forgive and move on were so much better off than those who allowed themselves to wallow in greed and anger hoping cash (or drugs) could somehow ease the pain.
Posted by anon 2006-10-04 16:21||   2006-10-04 16:21|| Front Page Top

#27 You got a cite for that? I have never heard anybody, right or left, say a good word for Phelps.

Agreed, Angie. I have never heard anybody say anything nice about Phelps. Like I say, I can only hope that one day this slimeball is found dead of a heart attack, slumped over his AIDS infected underage transvestite boy toy.

Notice how rarely Phelps himself ever shows up at these filthy "protests"? You have to think that this maggot knows just how valuable of a target he has become. Whoever offs this disgusting turd should get probation and 15 minutes of community service with time waived for pulling the trigger.

Also note, Phelps' pestiferous minions never go to gay rallies and protest. They'd have their asses heads handed to them in a heartbeat. Instead, these living shits target the most emtionally vulnerable of all, grieving widows and families. Their cowardice knows no limits.

Lastly, in a nod to this board's many Christians, I must finally concede that Phelps has ZERO to do with Christianity. The targeting of Amish victims proves this for once and all. The Amish are such unobtrusive and peaceable folk that there is no possible way to logically construe any connection between them and America's sufferings.

Phelps is almost unique in his twisted and vile personality. How he is able to persuade anyone over to his viewpoint only goes to show just how many hateful morons still exist in our country. I hope Phelps dies slowly. Veeeeeeery slowly.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-04 17:11||   2006-10-04 17:11|| Front Page Top

#28 You got a cite for that?

That is a fair complaint. But perhaps what was meant was that the left takes a certain morbid delight in the dead soldiers. There was much made to do about flag draped coffins on the covers of magazines, crosses placed to represent the number of dead in protests, headlines about passing 1,000 or 2,000 etc. That would be ok if they weren't using the dead in much the same way that Phelps is; to call attention to themselves rather than to show respect or genuine concern.
Posted by anon 2006-10-04 17:31||   2006-10-04 17:31|| Front Page Top

#29 and if you don't believe me - just log into Kos or the DU.
Posted by anon 2006-10-04 17:32||   2006-10-04 17:32|| Front Page Top

#30 I gave up reading Kos, DU, etc, anon.

It dries my skin to take more than 2 showers per day.
Posted by .com 2006-10-04 17:35||   2006-10-04 17:35|| Front Page Top

#31 yeah, me too. It's hard to get barf out of the keyboard.
Posted by anon 2006-10-04 17:45||   2006-10-04 17:45|| Front Page Top

#32 All of the horrendous killings over this past week are so senseless. To top it off with these idiots just makes for more snarlyness.

George Harrison's 'Give Me Love' helped me

(mods, sorry for the long link)
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/emicat/georgeharrison/audio/gharrison_001_give-me-love_100.wax

Give me loveGive me love
Give me peace on earth
Give me light Give me life
Keep me free from birth

Give me hope Help me cope,
with this heavy load Trying to, touch and reach you with,
heart and soulOM M M M M My Lord . . .

PLEASE take hold of my hand,
that I might understand you
Won't you please
Oh won't you Give me love Give me love

Give me peace on earth Give me light
Give me life Keep me free from birth
Give me hope Help me cope,
with this heavy load
Trying to,
touch and reach you with,
heart and soulOM M M M My Lord . . .

Won't you please
Oh won't you Give me love Give me love
Give me peace on earth Give me light
Give me life Keep me free from birth

Give me hope Help me cope,
with this heavy load
Trying to, touch and reach you with,
heart and soul

Give me love Give me love
Give me peace on earth
Give me light Give me life
Keep me free from birth

Give me hope Help me cope,
with this heavy load
Trying to, touch and reach you with,
heart and soulOM M M M M My Lord . . .

Jan from work
Posted by Slavish Phock5984 2006-10-04 18:16||   2006-10-04 18:16|| Front Page Top

#33 Out of all my limited spiritual beliefs, Widows and orphans, the taking care of them, is a must do event and non-negotiable. This fuckstick Phelps attacks them both at their most vulnerable time. Unforgivable, forever. I'm in Kentucky, we don't use 2X4's, we have the smooth polished oak of a Loui slugger in the gun rack just for guys like him!
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-10-04 18:25||   2006-10-04 18:25|| Front Page Top

#34 Well said, 49 Pan. You don't sound too limited to me. The scripture agrees with you.

"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world." ---James 1:27
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-04 18:40||   2006-10-04 18:40|| Front Page Top

#35 Jesus said, "by their fruits shall you know them". The fruits of Phelps' "church" are judgmental hate and bigotry. There is no LOVE from Phelps and his "church", and love is one of the foundations of Christian faith. There is also no forgiveness, which is ESSENTIAL for Christian faith. I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of Phelps or any of his "congregation" when they stand before God in judgment.

It's been a rough week: the shootings in Bailey, CO, the shooting in Pennsylvania, and an uptick in US deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. Phelps is doing nothing to make life easier for those who have lost loved ones, only inflicting more pain on the entire nation. Talk about a bus going over the cliff! Phelps and his congregation are a walking disaster.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-10-04 18:41|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-10-04 18:41|| Front Page Top

#36 Phelps and his followera are an example of what happens if you let hate and greed dominate your life.

Hatred does horrible things to people.

Look how twisted Islam is by ints inherent hate - how they justify killing innocents, sawing heads off of people, trying to commit genocide, etc.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-10-04 18:54||   2006-10-04 18:54|| Front Page Top

#37 And in their willingness to forgive that wacko and Phelps, see at the example of Christian love the Amish demonstrate for the rest of us poor sinners. It was this in the early Christians that ultimately converted Rome. I wish I had their courage.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-10-04 19:00||   2006-10-04 19:00|| Front Page Top

#38 #35 op: "I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of Phelps or any of his "congregation" when they stand before God in judgment."

me neither, but i'd sure like ringside seats! :-D
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-04 19:21|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-04 19:21|| Front Page Top

#39 So would I. Of a great many disgusting characters currently strutting and fretting upon the news boards, the Phelps "ticks" are the most purely loathsome.
And they do it all for publicity. Does anyone remember the next to final scene in the miniseries "Merlin" where everyone turned their backs on the evil witch Maeve, refusing to belive in her? And she lost all her power and withered away? I wish we could do so to the horrible Phelps-spawn, but the fact that we are even posting comments about them proves that they do still have some horrible loathly power, sick, mercenary f**ks that they are.
(Waving from across the room) Hi, Barbara!
Posted by Sgt. Mom 2006-10-04 19:47|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com]  2006-10-04 19:47|| Front Page Top

#40  Jesus said, "by their fruits shall you know them".

low-hanging fruit.... perhaps from a signpost
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-04 19:53||   2006-10-04 19:53|| Front Page Top

#41 As someone who gew up in PA, I am in complete admiration of the Amish.
They are asking for nothing other than space and respect for their lifestyle.
Posted by Capsu 78 2006-10-04 20:22||   2006-10-04 20:22|| Front Page Top

#42 "I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of Phelps or any of his "congregation" when they stand before God in judgment."

-me neither as well, I just want to arrange the meeting.
Posted by Broadhead6 2006-10-04 20:40||   2006-10-04 20:40|| Front Page Top

#43 The spawn woman was burned on both sides by Hannity and Colmes
video at link
Posted by 3dc 2006-10-04 22:22||   2006-10-04 22:22|| Front Page Top

#44 mcsegeek1 - Jesus took a whip to the money changers in the temple. Also, said woe unto him who claims to speak in his name and doesn't.
Posted by 3dc 2006-10-04 22:25||   2006-10-04 22:25|| Front Page Top

#45 3dc - Hannity really nailed it by observing that only her church, her family, actually, deserved to live by her stated screed. Hellwhore.
Posted by .com 2006-10-04 22:41||   2006-10-04 22:41|| Front Page Top

#46 Hannity filleted that satanic shrieking bitch. Even Colmes joined in. Hell freezes over
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-04 22:45||   2006-10-04 22:45|| Front Page Top

#47 As a (non-practicing) "man of the cloth" (ie I am an ordained minister and that stays with you for life in most cases unless you renounce it) I can say candidly that the Baptists should immediately and forthwith disavow, disbar, excommunicate, and denounce this reprehensible excuse for a minister human being and his cult church as the charlatans, frauds, lying evil bastards and pieces of offal that they are.

And the media should include that announcement in its reports every single time they report on this so-called "church".

My temper is such that these wastes of skin people should be grateful I've never encountered them as there would be blood on the pavement.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg  2006-10-04 22:49|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com]  2006-10-04 22:49|| Front Page Top

#48 FOTSGreg - I'm Roman Catholic, and I've NEVER, for a second, assumed these pariahs espouse any tenet that I would recognize as Christian, much less Baptist. Your point is well taken, but I assure you, among the informed, your worthy reputation isn't besmirched...now, James Earl Carter,...maybe :-)

just teasing
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-04 22:53||   2006-10-04 22:53|| Front Page Top

#49 Hi, #39 Mom! *waves back* :-D
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-04 23:06|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-04 23:06|| Front Page Top

#50 me neither, but i'd sure like ringside seats!

Hands down, lead pipe cinch, dead nuts, spot on, ahead by ten lengths at the wire, winning entry for Snark of the Day Award™! Barbara, you go girl!!! Take a bow!
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-04 23:10||   2006-10-04 23:10|| Front Page Top

#51 Thanks, Zen, but I thunk #42 Broad beat me. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-04 23:26|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-04 23:26|| Front Page Top

#52 thunk think

damned left-handed typing :-(
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-04 23:27|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-04 23:27|| Front Page Top

#53 I went to the Hannity and Colmes website. Holy Moley. That was the most obnoxious thing I've had to endure for some time. I'm not sure if I clicked on my beloved Dennis Miller or if it took me there, but I didn't get taken to the Westboro clip. First, I had to endure ads - ok, I know it's about the money - BUT they got me all excited about my beloved Dennis and then, just before the climax, they CUT DENNIS OFF!!??

Then they made me watch a commercial and then they bait and switched me to something else they wanted me to watch. Where is the F'n end to the Dennis segment!!!!!

I don't know whose in charge of their web videos but he/she needs to be fired for being totally out of touch.
Posted by anon 2006-10-04 23:37||   2006-10-04 23:37|| Front Page Top

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