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2005-10-03 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by mmurray821 2005-10-03 08:36|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Ruth Bader Ginsburg is approved by Repubs despite being pro-prostitution and wanting to lower the age of consent to age 12. Like it or not, the nomination of Ginsberg took courage.

The Bush nomination of Miers took no courage.

Posted by Captain America 2005-10-03 10:11|| 2005-10-03 10:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Sacrificial lamb.

Posted by Clolung Whinter4771 2005-10-03 10:16|| 2005-10-03 10:16|| Front Page Top

#3 One of the lefties said he'd retire when the chief justice retired/left. So, there is a third seat up soon within Bush's tenure. I suspect that this is an easy pass, awaiting that fight in which the nuke option will be played and the court fixed for a decade plus.

Posted by Ebbineng Jineting9128 2005-10-03 10:22|| 2005-10-03 10:22|| Front Page Top

#4 "There's every indication that she's very similar to Judge Roberts â judicial restraint, limited role of the court, basically a judicial conservative," said Republican consultant Greg Mueller, who works for several conservative advocacy leaders.

There's also every indication that she thinks the moon is made of green cheese. That is, no evidence what-so-ever.

Her confirmation hearings will allow every Ted, Dick, and Democrat with a grievance to assail every inch of Administration policy throughout the last five years. Abu Ghraib, torture memos, illegal combatants, Katrina; you name it, Miers had some influence or input to the policy as WH counsel.

I don't like it, and I'm disappointed by this choice. We hired W to swing for the bleachers, and he bunted. Bah.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-03 10:28|| 2005-10-03 10:28|| Front Page Top

#5 I read it differently, Sea.

This woman is a tough fighter. One person familiar with her courtroom skills described her as better able to filet an opposing argument than Mrs. Paul filets fish.

I look forward to the televised hearings LOL.

My read is that she will be enthusiastically conservative, including in ways I personally don't favor, but will do so within a strong discipline about the actual law as written and the Constitution we have (rather than the ones proposed by tranzis).

We'll see what the opposition says about her lack of judicial practice. I suspect there will be some parallels brought out about that.

Posted by lotp 2005-10-03 10:54|| 2005-10-03 10:54|| Front Page Top

#6 I dunno, I have bad feelings about this. I caught just a couple of seconds of the announcement and he President mentioned something about her being "compassionate", and I'm wondering what that has to do with Supreme Court rulings on constitutional matters. I'd rather they kept emotions OUT of them.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-03 11:22|| 2005-10-03 11:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers is largely viewed as a staunch Bush supporter and Republican insider, but in the not too distant past she was a financial backer of Al Gore and the Democrats, NewsMax has learned. In 1987 Miers gave $1,000 to the primary campaign of Democratic Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, a fellow Texan who also ran with Michael Dukakis on his partyâs ticket against Bushâs father in 1988.

Texas Republican Party really didn't exist back then, and Democrats had not yet gone off the deep end.

During that presidential campaign, Miers contributed $1,000 to the Albert Gore for President Committee, as well as $1,000 to the Democratic National Committee. Gore lost the Democratic primaries to Dukakis.

Al Gore was a moderate Southern Democrat back then.

In recent years Miers has given only to Republicans. She has backed Republican Pete Sessions, the Congressman from Dallas and one of the Houseâs most noted conservatives. She has also supported George W. Bush. She gave $1,000 to the George Bush campaign in 1999, and $2,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign in 2003. She also contributed $5,000 to the Bush-Cheney Inc. Recount Fund in 2000.

Hereâs a run down of recent political contributions Miers has made:

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.), $500 in 1994.
Phil Gramm for President, $1,000 in 1995.
Rep. Pete Sessions, $500 in 1995.
Friends of Phil Gramm (R-Tex.), $1,000 in 1996.
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), $1,000 in 1997.
Sen. Hutchison, three $1,000 contributions in 1999.
Dallas County Republican Party, $1,000 in 1999.
Bush-Cheney 2000 Compliance Committee, $1,000 in 2000.
Jon Newton, Republican for Congress, $1,000 in 2000.
Donald Stenberg (Republican) and the Good Government Fund, $500 in 2000.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-10-03 11:27|| 2005-10-03 11:27|| Front Page Top

#8 It seems that President Bush has a knack for surprising everybody. It seems also that both sides are disappointed not to have a big fight to look forward to.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-10-03 12:23|| 2005-10-03 12:23|| Front Page Top

#9 From Drudge:
VP Cheney Plans To Detail Support Of Harriet Miers On Rush Limbaugh Radio 1 PM ET/10 AM PT...

Harriet Miers gave cash contribution to the Democratic National Committee in 1988 and Gore campaign -- while Bush dad was running for president!...

On a conference call this morning, former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie admitted Miers was democrat througout the 1980s; asked specifically about the Gore contribution, Gillespie said that she was a 'conservative' democrat who later became a republican... Developing...

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-10-03 12:28|| 2005-10-03 12:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Conservative dem who became a repub .... that could describe an awful lot of regulars here at the Burg.

Posted by me too 2005-10-03 13:41|| 2005-10-03 13:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Not to mention a lot of people in Texas. Republicans were mighty scarce for decades.

Posted by eLarson 2005-10-03 14:20|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-10-03 14:20|| Front Page Top

#12 I could only listen to a little of Rush on a run today. The callers sounded too much like the DU, Moveon and Kos Kiddies whining and crying but their moans were about about Bush ignoring his base, that they're tired of being betrayed, etc. It was amusing to say the least. Demonstrating both sides have their koolaid drinkers.

One - she's an unknown. Everyone is talking more about their fears and not facts.

Two - it's appearent no matter what 'conservatives' say, many don't trust Bush, based upon all this noise. BTW, go ahead and sit out the next election so the left does regain power. That's your fault not Bush's.

Three - News Alert. Neither the right nor the left have the ability to achieve high office in this country unless the middle breaks for either side. You are not going to get 100% of what you want and are a fool to think you can. Democracy means compromise and I don't mean compromise with the left.

Four - There is nothing in the Constitution that says a SCOTUS justice has to be a prior sitting judge. In fact, I would point out that may be part of the problem. Most of the paperwork is done by the clerks anyway, just like most of military operations are done by the staff not the commander. One sets the objective and tone, the others make it happen.

Well, unlike a lot of today's whiners, I generally trust the man and his judgement. Those who he has selected for his immediate work group/inner circle, Chaney, Rice, etc. at least shows me that he has demonstrated the ability to pick good people - WHO HE PERSONALLY TRUSTS! One man's friend is another man's crony. All depends on one's perspective.

Posted by Ebbineng Jineting9128 2005-10-03 14:21|| 2005-10-03 14:21|| Front Page Top

#13 My read is that she will be enthusiastically conservative, including in ways I personally don't favor, but will do so within a strong discipline about the actual law as written and the Constitution we have (rather than the ones proposed by tranzis).

Really? I just read on Goldstein's blog that she is in favor of the ICC. Sounds pretty tranzi to me.

Looks to me like Bush dropped the ball bigtime. He has a chance to make a strong and lasting mark on the Supreme Court, and he comes up with a 60-year-old lightweight crony. I hope to be proven wrong, but I won't count on it.

Thankfully Bush is holding the line on the WOT, cuz that's the only positive thing I can see in what has been a supremely (pun intended) disappointing second term.

Posted by docob 2005-10-03 15:32|| 2005-10-03 15:32|| Front Page Top

#14 why would conservatives sit out the next presidential election cause of this? Are they as stupid as the many liberals who seem to forget that George W Bush WONT be on the ballot in 2008? Cant anyone else spell L-A-M-E D-U-C-K?

Myself, I dont know how Meiers will vote on the Court, but Im satisfied she will be a conservative, presumably more so than O'Connor, but not an ideologue.

This Bush, hes not so dumb, I think.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-10-03 15:50|| 2005-10-03 15:50|| Front Page Top

#15 ..I generally trust the man and his judgement. Those who he has selected for his immediate work group/inner circle, Chaney, Rice, etc. at least shows me that he has demonstrated the ability to pick good people - WHO HE PERSONALLY TRUSTS!

Well, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, etc. work under GWB and have to answer to him. Once Meirs is on the SC, she won't.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-03 15:59|| 2005-10-03 15:59|| Front Page Top

#16 So B-a-R you think all those people are suckups like the Clintonistas?

Posted by Greremble Whutch5864 2005-10-03 18:05|| 2005-10-03 18:05|| Front Page Top

#17 I was very worried about Roberts, but have come to really respect and like the guy. I think he will be a good SCOTUS judge. I am willing to give the new pick the benifit of the doubt, but I will have a wait and see approach.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-10-03 18:40|| 2005-10-03 18:40|| Front Page Top

#18 Seems no one likes her. She's probably just about right for the job, then.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2005-10-03 19:24|| 2005-10-03 19:24|| Front Page Top

#19 My view after listening to her and watching.

There were some comments made a few months ago that the supremes were sadly lacking in anybody with corporate law experience. Some real strange rulings had come out of the Supremes due to that.

Bush, seems to have heard that cry and appointed somebody with corporate law experience to fill a big void.

NOW THAT SAID... Her corporate experience scares this OpenSource linux user and xine dvd user.

Here biggest corporate clients were - drumroll: Microsoft & Disney

Posted by 3dc 2005-10-03 20:04|| 2005-10-03 20:04|| Front Page Top

#20 Screw the bitch then, 3dc. Dog food. Both of those companies have had a bad track record of taking things that belong to others and claiming they invented them and taking ownership. There are a few things more important than money.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-10-03 20:16|| 2005-10-03 20:16|| Front Page Top

#21 Ebbineng Jineting9128,

"The base" is upset because they've been busting their humps defending Bush from the charge that he's a crony-loving corporate shill only to have the Bush Baby reward them by sticking his finger down his throat and projectile vomiting in their faces.

Abe Fortas had more qualifications for the Supremes than she does. She's a big-government corporatist hack whose only qualification for the job is that she has a Lewensky-like devotion to W.

That's it.

Believe it or not, there are those who are consistently principled and who reject feeble affirmative-action hires for good reason. EVEN IF MIERS TOOK A BLOOD OATH PUNISHABLE BY A THUNDERBOLT FROM ZEUS THAT SHE WOULD VOTE AGAINST ROE V. WADE OR IN FAVOR OF JUDICIAL RESTRAINT, SHE WOULD STILL BE A BAD CHOICE.

This is Bush's "Screw you, I wanted Alberto" moment.

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-10-03 21:21|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com] 2005-10-03 21:21|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm willing to wait and see...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-03 21:22|| 2005-10-03 21:22|| Front Page Top

#23 I think EB's upset.

Posted by .com 2005-10-03 21:33|| 2005-10-03 21:33|| Front Page Top

#24 I'll lose sleep over that.....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-03 21:42|| 2005-10-03 21:42|| Front Page Top

#25 Gee, .com, I haven't noticed you being a quiet & retiring type when you're PO'd. (g)

Like I said, Bush is "showing the figs" to his base.

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-10-03 22:36|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com] 2005-10-03 22:36|| Front Page Top

#26 Frank G.,

I'm sure that your heart will go on...(cue Celine Dion)

When the only defense is, "Trust me," I find it singularly unappealing. Bush only looks good because the Democratic alternatives were walking vegetables in human form and McCain was and is a First Amendment-hating demagogue. He's blown the top off of government spending, let McCain-Feingold sail through, gone chasing after porn merchants recently instead of keeping an eye on the terrorists and the border, etc.

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-10-03 22:52|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com] 2005-10-03 22:52|| Front Page Top

#27 :-) OK - I can take abuse, but really....Celine??? Dammit

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-03 22:55|| 2005-10-03 22:55|| Front Page Top

#28 Sorry, that was uncalled for, wasn't it? (g)

She's Canada's Stealth Weapon against the U.S...

(along with Jim Carrey)

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-10-03 22:57|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com] 2005-10-03 22:57|| Front Page Top

#29 and Donald Sutherland, apparently

I had higher hopes for him

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-03 23:03|| 2005-10-03 23:03|| Front Page Top

#30 Frank G.,

The Michael Moriarty's and James Woods's are the exception. Most big stars have unaddressed guilt complexes over their success in an industry whose average employee makes $3,000 a year in the profession, especially since they know that acting is a buyer's market that is highly dependent on "the breaks." That, and living a fantasy existence, leads them to limousine liberalism.

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-10-03 23:09|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com] 2005-10-03 23:09|| Front Page Top

#31 Damn right I'm upset. I wanted a fire-breathing, raw-meat eating conservative. I wanted someone to look Ted Kennedy straight in the eyes and say "OK, fatboy - bring it on". I wanted Bush to say to the Dems - "Come get some". I wanted filibusters and nuclear options. I'm sick and tired of all the CRAP we've taken from the left and the media for all these years. I wanted payback. What I got was a Harry Reid recommendation. Damn!!

Posted by DMFD 2005-10-03 23:14|| 2005-10-03 23:14|| Front Page Top

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