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2006-10-02 Britain

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Posted by .com 2006-10-02 01:21|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 May I direct your attention to the extreme upper right hand corner of the graphic... isn't that our man Fred???

Posted by Besoeker 2006-10-02 07:25|| 2006-10-02 07:25|| Front Page Top

#2 The posterior salute image from a few frames earlier probably would have been more appropriate :)

Posted by Glitle Grenter4308 2006-10-02 09:26|| 2006-10-02 09:26|| Front Page Top

#3 I have some distant cousins on my mother's side in Scotland. When they were visiting one summer about fifteen years ago or so, I made the mistake of referring to the U.K. or the royal family or Maggie Thatcher as "you guys" or words to that effect. Oh boy, were they ever upset about that! "That's nae us, laddie; ye're talkin about th' English." A few apologies and a couple of Johnny Walkers later, peace was restored, and I was careful to never again underestimate the passion of the Scottish separatist movement. I'm not all that sure my relatives aren't more typical of Scots public opinion than is generally appreciated.

Posted by Mike 2006-10-02 09:30|| 2006-10-02 09:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Yes but is the Scottish separatist movement an EU Scottish separatist movement, too?

From what I've been reading you can probably trace 75% of Scotland's "troubles" of the last 10 years to the EU.

These buffoons probably think that they'll join the EU and have power. Hah. The EU regionalization scheme will break up all of the UK in the not so distant future.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2006-10-02 10:20|| 2006-10-02 10:20|| Front Page Top

#5 If the Scots declare independence and then join the EU, isn't that kinda a exersice in futility?

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-10-02 10:24|| 2006-10-02 10:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Ugh. Morons. Gee, devolution didn't work - our own socialist bullshit didn't thrive under partial independance. What we really need is total freedom to piss our sorry dung-hill of a decayed backwater down the drain!

Hope the rump UK steals the North Sea wells from them when it comes time to divvy up the family silverware.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2006-10-02 11:11|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2006-10-02 11:11|| Front Page Top

#7 If everyone joins the EU then there is no point to having the UK. Some regions in Europe will be cast off so the rest of the EU can help with the welfare payments, others will want to keep more of their wealth rather than dealing with an additional level of taxation.

For example Bavaria is the economic engine of Germany yet they are frequently disrespected. What is to keep Bavaria from joining the EU seperately and cutting German power/prestige off at the knees? Same with the industrialized Northern section of Italy.

I'm less familiar with the poorer regions but I think Scotland and Wales might see more cash coming in from the UK than they add.

I imagine the EU project will die when people start to realize that and national pride starts to reappear.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-02 11:37|| 2006-10-02 11:37|| Front Page Top

#8 I can't find the link but I've seen an EU regionalization plan that basically does away with national borders all together.

Southern England and parts of France (Normandy?) become one region. Scotland winds up with part of Scandanavia I think and so forth and so on.

The EU oligarchs are after nothing more than continental power through a bloodless, legalistic, take over.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2006-10-02 15:10|| 2006-10-02 15:10|| Front Page Top

#9 I should think they'd devolve into smaller groupings rather than simply redo the borders.

Redoing the borders is fascinating. It reminds me of the movie Amerika about the occupation of the USA by the soviets. The soviets redrew the whole thing to remove the connection to states and nation and unto the "new" states. Sort of colonialism's next step.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-10-02 15:16|| 2006-10-02 15:16|| Front Page Top

#10 The EU oligarchs are after nothing more than continental power through a bloodless, legalistic, take over.

Sort of like the Byzantines exhusting themselves getting back a good portion of the old Roman Empire just to have the muzzies then come screaming out of Saudland to conquer the lot up to Tours. Twice is going to be a farce. Goodbye and thanks for all the fish!

Posted by Gling Whamp5942 2006-10-02 16:22|| 2006-10-02 16:22|| Front Page Top

#11 Why does "Divide and Conquer" ring so strongly in my mind?

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-10-02 19:31|| 2006-10-02 19:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Fry... points to Estonia and Ireland as two thriving independent countries that Scotland could learn from.

Um... no. Ireland got its wealth by initially sponging off the EU. Don't think the EU will fall for it a second time. Even they aren't that stupid.

Estonia, well... let's just say Scotland hasn't learned that Socialism is a failure.

Posted by Pappy 2006-10-02 21:36|| 2006-10-02 21:36|| Front Page Top

#13 Um... no. Ireland got its wealth by initially sponging off the EU. Don't think the EU will fall for it a second time. Even they aren't that stupid.

Don't know about that, Pappy.
Ireland lived too long under the Agrarian socialist policies of De Velara. At one time it was the most socialist country outside the USSR.
His demise and the rise of a new breed of politicians coincided with the entry of Ireland into the EU.
The subsidies it received were a pittance compared to what it achieved by adopting a pro-market/pro-business philosophy. This led to a massive inflow of US investment into the old sod.
Ireland accounts for only 1% of the EU market, but it receives 30% of the US investment in the EU.

Posted by tipper 2006-10-02 23:50|| 2006-10-02 23:50|| Front Page Top

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