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2004-09-26 Europe
Swiss Voters Reject Citizenship Proposal
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Posted by Fred 2004-09-26 11:56:40 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Foreigners have to wait at least 12 years, and Swiss-born children and even grandchildren of immigrants do not qualify automatically.

Sounds like a process I can heartily endorse here in the US. No more pregnant illegals struggling across to have their children born here (i.e.: citizens)
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-26 12:05:31 PM||   2004-09-26 12:05:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Nope, I disagree strongly. Immigration has built and continues to build this country. Policies that grant children born here automatic citizenship ensure that the people who live here get bound to the U.S. The children learn our language and customs and become good citizens.

I'm happy to have foreigners who work hard, have something to contribute, and become Americans in spirt become citizens.
Posted by Steve White  2004-09-26 2:05:57 PM||   2004-09-26 2:05:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 can tell you don't live in a border state, SW. Illegals are not educated, don't assimilate, and use far more services than they provide. We have hospitals in poor areas (like LA) that are closing because of the impact of illegals- using the emergency ward as their primary care, without paying. Your vision is pie in the sky where uneducated illegals are concerned
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-26 2:15:38 PM||   2004-09-26 2:15:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I agree with Frank: Earlier waves of Immigrants came to the United States LEGALLY, waiting their turn in line. What's the problem of immigrants doing that TODAY and refraining from jumping the line illegally?
Posted by Ptah  2004-09-26 2:58:00 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2004-09-26 2:58:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Living in LA, I concur with Frank G.

Legal immigrants who speak English, who have skills, and who have a desire to assimilate are a strong asset.

Illegal immigrants with grade school educations who don’t speak English and who have few skills aren’t assimilating. The majority of births in California today are to Spanish speaking mothers.
Posted by Anonymous5032 2004-09-26 6:01:58 PM||   2004-09-26 6:01:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 You are arguing apples and oranges. Frank, Ptah, A5032, do any of you have a problem with automatic citizenship being granted to children who are born to naturalized citizens? There is absolutely no reason to keep on granting automatic citizenship to children born to undocumented illegal aliens. That is simply fiscal suicide. Those seeking emergency room treatment better be able to provide documentation or find themselves deported once they recover. I don't want them bleeding to death on the doorstep, but they sure as hell should be sent back if they don't belong.

Hospitals should demand proof of citizenship or registered alien status before allocating a proper birth certificate. Undocumented aliens giving birth should have the parent and child's biometric data placed on record and then be promptly deported. Tough crap if they are now afraid to come to a hospital to give birth. They can go back to their country of origin to have their kids.

For registered aliens who are attempting to become American citizens, the citizenship of any children born to them should be contingent upon their becoming properly naturalized citizens. Should the parent commit any felonies before becoming naturalized, everyone gets deported to the parents' country of origin.

Remember to thank the current administration amongst others for refusing to tighten up on illegal immigration. Big business just makes too much profit that eventually finds its way into campaign coffers to willingly endure any substantial crackdown on illegal immigration. Even if those porous borders put Americans at risk of terrorist attack, not to mention economic attack.

As to Switzerland, those b@stards helped depopulate so much of Europe that they should be forced to accept 50% of their population as immigrants. Remember the Frontline program, Nazi Gold?
Posted by Zenster 2004-09-26 11:42:01 PM||   2004-09-26 11:42:01 PM|| Front Page Top

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