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2004-09-23 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by ed 2004-09-23 03:48|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

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At a November 1971 meeting in Kansas City of the leaders of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, one Scott Camil proposed "Operation Phoenix" â a plan to assassinate the leading pro-war members of the U.S. Senate. The group adjourned to a secret location to debate the assassination plan, and ultimately voted it down.

John Kerry originally claimed that he resigned from VVAW's executive committee two days before that meeting, and has denied attending. But contemporaneous FBI surveillance records place Kerry in Kansas City, and a number of witnesses â including the head of Kerry's campaign in Missouri, Randy Barnes â have said that Kerry attended the Kansas City meeting and argued against the assassination plan. (Thomas Lipscomb broke this story in the New York Sun this spring.)

Why has Kerry been unable to point to any evidence that he resigned from VVAW prior to the Kansas City meeting? If Kerry was there, why didn't he tell the authorities that some members were plotting political assassinations?

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Surely the VVAW recorded the minutes of this secret meeting to assassinate US Senators. Kerry should be able to publicly provide those minutes to prove that he did not attend the meeting. His failure to do so is extremely suspicious.

I think we should ask Mr. Ngo and some other Vietnamese refugees for their opinions about Kerry's failure to provide this proof!
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-09-23 9:05:35 AM|| 2004-09-23 9:05:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Mike S., I don't always agree w/you but I usually read your comments w/an open mind as I guess your a vet. However, you've lost me lately w/this whole Mr.Ngo diatribe. What he do to you? Piss in your wheaties or some shit? Empregnate your sister? Steal your dog?

What gives man?

Posted by Jarhead 2004-09-23 10:59:20 AM|| 2004-09-23 10:59:20 AM|| Front Page Top

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That author of that article asked some Vietnamese refugees two questions:

What do you think of John Kerry's statements that Vietnam would be a utopia if US forces withdrew?

What do you think of John Kerry 'sstatements that US troops systematically committed atrocities in Vietnam?

Mr. Ngo and the other refugees said that based on their own personal experiences in Vietnam, John Kerry's statements were wrong.

That was a piece of lazy, silly journalism, and I pointed it out. (Just as today I pointed out the lazy, silly journalism in relationship to Kofi Annan's "statements".)
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-09-23 11:32:17 AM|| 2004-09-23 11:32:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Okay, so your not pissed at Ngo but rather (no pun intended) your trying to be sarcastic wrt the lazy journalist as you say?

Two statements about Kerry:

1) IF he did make a statement that utopia was at hand if the commies were in charge then history proved Mr.Ngo correct and he states this as his experience - I don't see that as bad journalism. Though painfully obvious.

2) Besides the extreme case of the my lai massacre and a few other incidents there wasn't any "systematic attrocities" committed by U.S. troops. If Mr.Ngo as a 'nam refugee says he didn't see any how is this a case of bad journalism.

Seems to me there are bigger things to get your panties in a bunch about.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-09-23 11:47:18 AM|| 2004-09-23 11:47:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 That was a piece of lazy, silly journalism, and I pointed it out. (Just as today I pointed out the lazy, silly journalism in relationship to Kofi Annan's "statements".)

Part of being a good journalist is also to write so your readers can understand the thrust of your work (as part of an editor's job is to make sure that little 'thing' happens).

Sarcasm by itself doesn't necessarily translate well. May I most humbly suggest that, when you are annoyed with silly, lazy journalism, you simply state that or add a follow-up explanation along with your comment?

Posted by Pappy 2004-09-23 12:35:36 PM|| 2004-09-23 12:35:36 PM|| Front Page Top

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