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2016-09-23 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Victor Davis Hanson: A Hard Rain is Going to Fall
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Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2016-09-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top

#1 VDH needs to lay off the Clancy novels and get out a little more.
Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 00:56||   2016-09-23 00:56|| Front Page Top

#2 "Human nature is unchanging and remains irrational. Evil is eternal. Unfortunately, appeasement is often seen by thugs not as magnanimity to be reciprocated but as timidity to be exploited."

This is the giant blind spot in the brain of the NPR-listening pseudointellectual class - like Mrs. Tennessee. They don't understand this basic proven truth that VDH can lay out in three simple sentences.

They really think they can buy the world a Coke.

This is what happens when you want a narrative to be true so badly that you ignore reality. This is what happens when you are taught Zinn/Chomsky history instead of real history. This is what happens when a nation has been too wealthy for too long and lots of its citizens never really struggled or had to deal with adversity and their view of human nature is based on living in philosophically insular enclaves like college campuses or tony, chic urban neighborhoods, doing jobs that aren't really productive or necessary but exist due to said affluence.

When the bad times come for those types, and the thugs foreign OR domestic) are standing before them with a gun, they really think that they can say, "No, you don't understand, I was against the Iraq War, and I voted for Obama. and I hate Christians, and I believe in diversity!", and the thugs will say, "Oh, okay, I'll just leave now". There is literally no understanding that the thugs won't even spare the breath to laugh before they blow the squishy leftist's brains all over the wall behind her.

Mrs Tennessee is exactly the sort of person who goes around saying that things are different this time - but who can never tell you how, precisely.
Posted by no mo uro 2016-09-23 05:06||   2016-09-23 05:06|| Front Page Top

#3 Posted by: no mo uro You need to get out more as well. Rub the sleepy outta your eyes, take your zoloft and take a stroll outside. The sun is shining, the birds are singing, the skies are blue. Breath in the fresh air.

Oh, I get war and sacrifice - both downrange and at home. Been there, several times, done that, got the scars on my mind and my body, and lost buddies as my re-ward. You?
What say we skip the bona fides and tail-sniff.
We need to concenrate on and win one war in a row - first, against ISIS, and then against the cartels...the near enemy for us. And then I say we take a break - how 'bout that?

IMO, VDH is a dumbazz, he never had skin in the game, and he needs his world war cloud drama to remain relevant and feel better about himself. There were no three simple sentences in that whole rambling posting of his - give me a break.

Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 10:36||   2016-09-23 10:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Please Lord, make me as helplessly witless as Victor Davis Hanson.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-09-23 10:46||   2016-09-23 10:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Mexifornia...VDH gets the Captain Obvious award.

However, VDH's yapping support to Cheney...pushing our invasion of Iraq...was indeed witless.

Don't get me wrong...VDH writes well...never partipates mind you...and was wrong on the most important issue of our time. Iraq.
Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 11:46||   2016-09-23 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 He wrote Mexifornia over a decade ago. I don't think the problems he mentions have improved.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-09-23 13:28||   2016-09-23 13:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Define wrong.
Posted by KBK 2016-09-23 16:29||   2016-09-23 16:29|| Front Page Top

#8 The only thing I think he got wrong about Iraq was not realizing the Dems would sabotage everything and pull troops out the first time they had the chance (as they did with Vietnam).

Pretty much only Democrats can start wars because they'll support their own, and the Republicans are honorable enough to see a conflict through.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-09-23 17:04||   2016-09-23 17:04|| Front Page Top

#9 #7 Define wrong. Posted by: KBK What was right about it?
Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 18:01||   2016-09-23 18:01|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 Define wrong. Posted by KBK

A short Iraq AAR in 3 simple sentences.

1- Al Qaeda was not there in 2003...AQ is the enemy.
2- There were no WMD.
3- Never ever nation build.

We did not need to invade and occupy IQ - a raid at most would have been sufficient. However, we broke our Army and many Soldiers with the unnecessary occupation.

What say we skip the bona fides and tail-sniff. I am not gonna be preached to about evil by uro - I will respond and establish my credentials as I see fit. Such as first - I am a Mr. Tennessee, not a Mrs. Tennessee :) and I have been there, done that, seen evil and thoroughly understand its consequences.
Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 19:46||   2016-09-23 19:46|| Front Page Top

#11 Tennessee, another case could also be made:

1. Enter Iraq
2. *Break things* until they succumb
3. Exit thru Syria & Iran
4. Repeat step 2 with *extreme malice*
5. Demand Saudi Arabia's unconditional surrender
Posted by Crusader 2016-09-23 21:55||   2016-09-23 21:55|| Front Page Top

#12 
#11 Tennessee, another case could also be made:
1. Enter Iraq
2. *Break things* until they succumb
3. Exit thru Syria & Iran
4. Repeat step 2 with *extreme malice*
5. Demand Saudi Arabia's unconditional surrender Posted by: Crusader

I would concur with about all of that. The raid plan is a plan I could live with (minus #3 - a little leery of biting off more that we can chew tactically with Iran). Really like #5 - KSA = AQ/ISIS. Just as long as we don't try to stay and fix anything we break.
Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 22:04||   2016-09-23 22:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Pardon me, but chemical weapons are WMD. Plenty to go around.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-09-23 22:36||   2016-09-23 22:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Posted by: Procopius2k

Where was it at in 2003? There wasn't plenty to go around...little, if any, and that was partially destroyed, degraded materiel. Not worth going to war over...no terrorist could ever figure out how to use it... AQ however, used our planes as WMD. No AQ in IQ at that time. Not tracking.

They are making it now, well trying to make it in the ISIS held areas.
Posted by Tennessee 2016-09-23 23:46||   2016-09-23 23:46|| Front Page Top

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