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2006-09-21 Europe

Youths beat up two police patrolling Paris suburb

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Posted by Fred 2006-09-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 One NB : it was not a by-chance spontaneous riot, it was a bona fide ambush, with masked agressors, and this is much discussed in french msm, and has became a political issue.
File it in "frenchifada" (remember, about 100 cars torched a night, with actual number probably higher thanks to the official stats system ignoring "collateral damage" and unassured cars).

By the way, expect some flare ups of violence, ramadan is coming : it "traditionally" ends in spontaneous riots, and security forces are very anxious the 2005 ramadan riots (IIRC 200 millions euros of damage, 11 000+ vehicles and 50 or so public building torched, one uppity woman doused in gazoline and set alight, plus at least one similar try, and 8 unacknowledged deaths, in addition to all the police wounded) could be revived, think "Pope".

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-09-21 01:40|| 2006-09-21 01:40|| Front Page Top

#2 "These youths fear nothing," a police union official said on LCI television.

They fear some things. They just don't fear the French.

Posted by DoDo 2006-09-21 01:49|| 2006-09-21 01:49|| Front Page Top

#3 They fear some things. They just don't fear the French

French police has to abide with very restrictive rules of engagement: no draw of weapons except in case of immediate danger. Menaning that often, like in case of those two guys, they do it when it is too late.

In addition French judicial system is totally in the hands of bleeding heart liberals (btw in France you become a judge by passing an exam, without election or any kind of control by the people). It is common that "youths" peprpetrate 10 to 20 offences or crimes (US meaning, in France the use of the word of crime is for murders) before getting before getting a... suspended sentence. When they serve terms these are very short on the pretext that there is not enough prison capacity. Of course, the fact there are not enough jails is ever interpreted by our bleeding heart politicians and MSM as "we should not put peiople in jail" instead of the two other solutions: "build more jails" or "learn from glorious example set by comarde Stalin about how to deal woth the probklem of overcrowded jails".

Anyway criminals have little reasons to fear the police: they will not be shot by it and if arrested the judge will release them in a matter of hours.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-09-21 04:48|| 2006-09-21 04:48|| Front Page Top

#4 I hold the manufacturers of the iron bars responsible. Iron bars are an inherently dangerous consumer product.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2006-09-21 05:50|| 2006-09-21 05:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Try that in Texes, Alabama, or Georgia.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-21 07:55|| 2006-09-21 07:55|| Front Page Top

#6 If you tried this here in the U.S. You would be wounded, pissing your pants seeing your friends shot, or dead. Preferably dead IMO. No excuse for jumping a Police Officer.

Posted by Charles 2006-09-21 08:52|| 2006-09-21 08:52|| Front Page Top

#7 The French police need to consider these events as weapon speed-drawing reflex tests.

I wonder what would happen if some stealthy "neighborhood watch" types identified an entire street's worth of Muslim-owned vehicles and torched them all in a single night. These assholes desperately need some paybacks.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-21 09:27|| 2006-09-21 09:27|| Front Page Top

#8 Get a Corsican, an artillery battery, and a whiff of grape, and I can assure you, youll have their attention.

Posted by Slineng Shailet1124 2006-09-21 09:45|| 2006-09-21 09:45|| Front Page Top

#9 Now pay attention; This is how lefties lose control of their country. And, please don't laugh.

Posted by wxjames 2006-09-21 09:47|| 2006-09-21 09:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Time for the Semaine Sanglante part Deux?

Posted by Omasing Glinesing6559 2006-09-21 09:49|| 2006-09-21 09:49|| Front Page Top

#11 For Americans this is hard to understand. Recall the unofficial motto of the Texas Rangers: "1 riot, 1 Ranger" Those boyes were armed and willing.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2006-09-21 10:36|| 2006-09-21 10:36|| Front Page Top

#12 I think a lot of us here are expecting exactly that sort of European-style charnel house response to this current situation, Omasing Glinesing6559.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-21 11:04|| 2006-09-21 11:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Are you enjoying your rainbow, France?

Posted by Thoth 2006-09-21 11:10|| 2006-09-21 11:10|| Front Page Top

#14 Great comment that I read elsewhere on this....

"This proves that they are unassimilated. If they were assimilate in France they would have surrendered immediately."

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2006-09-21 11:38|| 2006-09-21 11:38|| Front Page Top

#15 Try that in Texes, Alabama, or Georgia.

Abso-f*cking-lutely Right. Iron Bar, meet Glock.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-21 11:59|| 2006-09-21 11:59|| Front Page Top

#16 The world needs to take lessons from the American Old West. These little hoodlums would be so toast here.

"No arrests were made following the incident, police said."

So the bad boys won. Is anyone surprised? If you let bad behavior have its way, it will have its way.

The EU liberals need to face reality really soon, if they want to continue with any semblance of their "enlightened" society. Solution: jail and/or deport--then have your wine and cheese parties.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-09-21 12:04|| 2006-09-21 12:04|| Front Page Top

#17 The French police need to consider these events as weapon speed-drawing reflex tests.

Unfortuntely this is not possible. Reread what I said about French police's rules of engagement.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-09-21 12:12|| 2006-09-21 12:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Lucky the gendarmes weren't killed outright. They know the score. They should have got out with cocked riot guns with 00 shot. I guarantee a load in the face of the first "youth" would have caused the rest of the tribe to back up. When they got a glimpse of the remainder of his carcass they would have been very willing to comply with any further questions/orders.

Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-09-21 12:20|| 2006-09-21 12:20|| Front Page Top

#19 "If the perp uses his fist, you use your stick. If he pulls a knife, you pull your piece and cancel his ticket right then and there."
-- "Proportionate Force", LAPD style

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-09-21 13:23|| 2006-09-21 13:23|| Front Page Top

#20 They were cops, not gendarmes. Gendarmes are military and have more realxed ROEs. Also Gendarmes have juridisction over country aresas not urban ones.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-09-21 15:46|| 2006-09-21 15:46|| Front Page Top

#21 If they allow this "Frenchifada" to continue, the final result will be a "Frenchilada".

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-21 19:06|| 2006-09-21 19:06|| Front Page Top

#22 mmmmmm Frenchican food...
/Homer

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-21 19:31|| 2006-09-21 19:31|| Front Page Top

#23 For Americans this is hard to understand. Recall the unofficial motto of the Texas Rangers: "1 riot, 1 Ranger"

Which is not to say that no Rangers ever died in the line of duty, or that cops don't get killed in the U.S. Are U.S. cops any safer than French cops? Doubt it.

Posted by Rafael 2006-09-21 20:39|| 2006-09-21 20:39|| Front Page Top

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