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2004-09-21 Home Front: Politix
Interesting Theory on Why Kerry won't sign Form 180
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Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-21 3:27:37 AM|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Dishonorable discharge?

No. Not likley.

GENERAL discharge "under other than honorable conditions", that could be it. And he had it upgraded later to Honorable.

That may be why he hasn't released his records.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-21 9:48:59 AM||   2004-09-21 9:48:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I thought it was that his medical records will show that he had the clap at least four times.
Posted by Fred  2004-09-21 9:58:27 AM||   2004-09-21 9:58:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 or that somebody placed something in his records saying he shouldn't have met with the enemy while being a reserve officer
Posted by mhw 2004-09-21 10:20:23 AM||   2004-09-21 10:20:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 My theory, is that he's sick.

Either physically or mentally.
Hence all the photos of him doing sporting events and such.
Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-09-21 10:48:49 AM||   2004-09-21 10:48:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 My theory is the first purple heart wound was pretty minor and would make him look like a sissy-boy crying to go home from a wound that didn't require any hospital time and which the first doctor refused to sign the purple heart paperwork for instead of the hero image he's been trying to construct.
Posted by rjschwarz  2004-09-21 11:25:22 AM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-09-21 11:25:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I think Fred is right, and the problem is close to home. Remember Clinton was known to have VD (Herpes) and Nurse Fuzzy-Wuzzy would wield a mean scalpel, even if it was a past indiscretion. (Remember her threat to Heinz?)
Posted by BigEd 2004-09-21 11:34:00 AM||   2004-09-21 11:34:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Of course, we could start a document:

"Persuant to the order of the President, the discharge of John Forbes Kerry is hereby upgraded to Honorable. The fact he met with representatives of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, in Paris, France, has been deemed irrelevant by the President, therefore his recorded discharge shall now be declared to be Honorable

Signed,
Lt. Bill Burkett,
Texas Army National Guard"

Of course Dan Rather will never buy it...
Posted by BigEd 2004-09-21 11:38:44 AM||   2004-09-21 11:38:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 VD ? Non-specific urinitis ? Ha Ha Ha.He had a discharge alright.Two of them !!
Posted by crazyhorse  2004-09-21 11:51:56 AM||   2004-09-21 11:51:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 CH...OUCH! That's nothing to clap about! I bet Kerry is trying hide the fact taht he inpregnated serveral Vietnamese maidens. FYI NSU (and most STDs) is allowed in the disability calculation for benifits. Find out if Kerry is a disabled vet and you'll have a new line of investigation. If he hasn't sign a 180 by now he never will. There has to be something damning in them or he would have done so when he began his quest for the White House.
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-09-21 12:35:56 PM||   2004-09-21 12:35:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 There are hundreds of pages missing. I think Kerry could easily get away with medical records pertaining only to the awards issued.

I think that his fitness reports say he was "unfit for command" - thus the title of the book. There are those alive who would have seen it and would know if indeed that was the case. They'd remember too - after his treachery upon return home.

Although it is intriguing to wonder about the terms of his discharge -seeing as how there are questions about his actual discharge date.

both ideas aren't mutually exclusive.
Posted by 2B 2004-09-21 12:55:05 PM||   2004-09-21 12:55:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 A couple of things:

As far as his awards go...Silver/Bronze Star. His record would show who submitted the original paperwork recommending the awards. By 1969, the military was looking for "hero's" and the decorations were flowing. Not that they weren't earned, because a lot on deserving individuals were honored.

That said, the awards branch was flooded with requests...and if a recommendation had merit...it moved along quickly, often without regard to where it originated. Thus, months after Kerry was safe at home, an award recommendation is drafted by "someone" and approved. I seem to recall that Kerry's assignment upon his return to the states was as military aide to an Admiral. An assignment that could easily source a recommendation with the proper horse power.

As far as the Bronze Star...that was the usual "end of tour" award for an officer. NBD!

Now the Purple Heart option. Whether he rated them or not...once his command realized Kerry was:

1. More trouble than he was worth.
2. A hazard to himself and others in the command.
3. And, unfit for command

Permitting him to depart on the 3rd PH came as a God send!
Posted by RN  2004-09-21 1:19:07 PM||   2004-09-21 1:19:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 When Jon Bon sKerry was in Paris talking to his cong buddies, was he fully discharged from the USN?
Posted by Atropanthe 2004-09-21 2:06:43 PM||   2004-09-21 2:06:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 All indications are that he was still in the USNR.
Posted by RN  2004-09-21 2:11:58 PM||   2004-09-21 2:11:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Even though I've been very curious about this detail, I've not bothered to lift a finger to research the dates. If not, then no big deal except him being a pinko commie. But if he was still in the USN, reserves or whatever, when he snuck over to Paris to kneel before the Yellow God of the 60's Left, that would be.. very bad.
Posted by Atropanthe 2004-09-21 2:17:41 PM||   2004-09-21 2:17:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Atropanthe, as far as I know he was in the Inactive Naval Reserve (but not standby). (Was he drawing a paycheck?? I dont know.)

Also, as I recall he received his Silver Star within a few days (3??) of the incident while he was still in Vietnam - it was fasttracked.
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-09-21 2:18:32 PM||   2004-09-21 2:18:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 All of this speculation is the direct result of Kerry not releasing his records. Even non-conspiracy types like myself have to wonder what is the files if he is steadfastly refusing to release them. It can't be a privacy issue (although his personal medical records and Teresa's tax returns have also not been released) since he keeps calling for Bush's records to be made public (which they have). I thought for awhile it might be rope-a-dope on Kerry's part but the election is too close now and Bush is(apparently) pulling away so the release of clean records wouldn't help Kerry much.
Posted by AWW 2004-09-21 2:23:10 PM||   2004-09-21 2:23:10 PM|| Front Page Top

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