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What America can learn from ancient Rome's death by mass migration

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Posted by Besoeker 2024-09-18 07:22|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Decline of the Aztec Empire

Posted by Skidmark 2024-09-18 09:26|| 2024-09-18 09:26|| Front Page Top

#2 The unending border and civil wars drained the traditional manpower pools to the point that Rome relied more and more upon auxiliary troops of 'allies' which incorporated those 'migrants'. At the critical Battle of Châlons against the invading Hun army, half of the forces where allied Germanic tribes. Eventually, the 'allies' started to ask 'why are you in charge?'.

Posted by Procopius2k 2024-09-18 10:23|| 2024-09-18 10:23|| Front Page Top

#3 "It is a common historical myth that Rome fell in 476 A.D. after Odoacer, King of the Goths, sacked the capital city and forced Romulus Augustus to abdicate his throne"

Odoacer was Germanic, but not a Goth, let alone their king. He actually fought the Ostrogoths later on. He also didn't sack Rome (that was Alarich).

At that time, the party was in Ravenna, not in Rome.

Posted by European Conservative 2024-09-18 11:11|| 2024-09-18 11:11|| Front Page Top

#4 It is more complicated than that.

For example, Flavius Stilicho, who was of Vandal barbarian ancestry commanded a number of Roman Legions in battle against, among others, the Huns, Goths and Franks. He was executed by a Roman emperor in 408. The Roman army basically fell apart after that and Rome itself was sacked in 410.

There were other barbarians who fought successfully for Rome in command positions.

Posted by Lord Garth 2024-09-18 11:21|| 2024-09-18 11:21|| Front Page Top

#5 1177 BC by Eric Cline is creepy.

Posted by swksvolFF 2024-09-18 12:03|| 2024-09-18 12:03|| Front Page Top

#6 The Roman Empire did not fall at all, it lived on for 1000 years in the Eastern part.

But indeed, it's a complicated story. I recommend to visit the churches of Ravenna with their splendid mosaics.

Posted by European Conservative 2024-09-18 12:28|| 2024-09-18 12:28|| Front Page Top

#7 What did it mean to be Roman?
When everybody is Roman,
Roman means nothing.
Who maintains a loyalty to nothing?
Without loyalty to a central govt,
You have a reversion (at best) to tribalism.
That spells Cultural Darwinism for the central authority.

Posted by mossomo 2024-09-18 13:29|| 2024-09-18 13:29|| Front Page Top

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