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Obama: Argue with your friends and neighbors, "get in their face"

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-09-18 12:00|| || Front Page|| [10325 views ] Top

#1 Because there is nothing people like better than someone in their face with spittle filled rhetoric.

Great winning strategy!

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-18 12:22|| 2008-09-18 12:22|| Front Page Top

#2 Any one of you libs get in my face and you'll be having your teeth for lunch.

"I want you to argue with them and get in their face". This is considered 'discourse' from a Presidential candidate? How can anyone take this man seriously?

Posted by Chris W. 2008-09-18 12:24|| 2008-09-18 12:24|| Front Page Top

#3 I want you to argue with them and get in their face

And what are you going to tell me? That it's bushcheneymcpalin's fault and that the messiah will heal the sick financials by rubbing mud in their eyes?

I would ask them about Andrew Cuomo, a Clinton appointee for HUD from 1997 to 2001. "Junior" made a series of bad decisions such as allowing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to move into the sub-prime markets without any regulatory mechanism. And he allowed the FHA to give out $0 down loans. He legalized brokers receiving kickbacks for these loans which led to predatory lending. Then Andy decided to provide unrealistic flexible loans to low-income families and minorities with little to no money down.

If you want to scream in my face about bushcheneymcpalin's responsibility...place partial blame on Clinton and the donks.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2008-09-18 12:34|| 2008-09-18 12:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Do that with 2nd amendment folks and things could get interesting. I don't see how this tactic is going to win over any voters. Seems more like the words of a desparate man. Metro man just looks silly when he tries to sound tough.

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2008-09-18 12:38|| 2008-09-18 12:38|| Front Page Top

#5 It all goes back to that traitor "Carter" not supporting the Shah - resulting in the whole militant islam thingy...

Posted by 3dc 2008-09-18 12:47|| 2008-09-18 12:47|| Front Page Top

#6 "I want you to argue with them and get in their face," he said.

Go ahead. Make my day.

Posted by Raj 2008-09-18 12:59|| 2008-09-18 12:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Obama says this stuff like the Dems haven't controlled Congress the last two years. Like he hasn't accepted money from Fannie Mae or whatever the hell it's called.

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You know, if I were running for office and my supporters had done all the sorts of things that Obama's army of flying monkeys had done, the LAST thing I would be doing would be saying that they need to get in more people's faces.

I thank GOD ALMIGHTY that I'm not one of these liberals who believe conservatives have engineered the war, are killing people for the fun of it, etc., etc., because if I were, I'd be looking out at my party having become the party that makes fun of families with disabled children... and I'd go into the booth and pull the lever for John "Meatgrinder" McCain.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-09-18 13:11|| 2008-09-18 13:11|| Front Page Top

#8 In my face indeed......

I think it was in 1803 or thereabouts that the US Congress passed a law making duelling illegal, and ever since, the level of discourse in America has declined. Still having some epee skills, I'd be more than willing to risk the penalties to help raise the politeness quotient in the polity.

Was it Heinlein who wrote "An armed society is a polite society"?

Posted by Mercutio 2008-09-18 14:11|| 2008-09-18 14:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't get up in my grill, pinko scum. I'll flatten you on your ass.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-09-18 14:19|| 2008-09-18 14:19|| Front Page Top

#10 I doubt Congress passed a law in 1803 except for DC. In July 1804 Hamilton and Burr dueled in Weehawken NJ, because it was illegal to duel in NY. The last duel in Weehawken was in 1845 according to Wikipedia.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 14:21|| 2008-09-18 14:21|| Front Page Top

#11 "...if he's president he'll take on -- and I quote -- 'the old boys network in Washington.' I'm not making this up," Obama said. "This is somebody who's been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he's the one who's going to take on the old boys network," Obama said. "The old boys network. In the McCain campaign that's called a staff meeting. Come on."

OODA again. Candidate Obama's VP choice has been there as long, is as old, and did nothing toward reforming his colleagues. I thought Obama was supposed to be so very intelligent...

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-18 14:23|| 2008-09-18 14:23|| Front Page Top

#12 On every news show I've seen during the last few days, Obama supporters have shouted down opposing points of view, talked over the host and used any question to give long harrangues stating his talking points, no matter what the question - and kept doing it even when the hosts tried to stop them.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-18 14:40|| 2008-09-18 14:40|| Front Page Top

#13 Sounds like he's getting really, really desperate.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2008-09-18 14:58|| 2008-09-18 14:58|| Front Page Top

#14 lotp, I've noticed that on the radio, also. It's an interesting tactic because I've also noticed the media types trying to overtalk them. Both are demeaned by the failure to extend mutual civility in my mind, even though the Obamanista initiated it. Does The One really want to demean the MSM?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 15:03|| 2008-09-18 15:03|| Front Page Top

#15 Nimble Spemble, are you suggesting that laws are never broken?

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-09-18 15:32|| 2008-09-18 15:32|| Front Page Top

#16 heh.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 15:37|| 2008-09-18 15:37|| Front Page Top

#17 I think not, rj, merely correcting my bad history. A search does indicate that apparently duelling was common up into the 1840's and not as a sneak out behind the barn thing, but pretty public. I was basing the earlier date on a story I had heard, perhaps an early urban legend, about two congressmen. One 6'7" and the other 5'2" The little one challenged the big one. The big one had the choice of weapons, and not really being interested chose 16 pound sledgehammers in 5'6" of water. Duel never came off. The story as told to me indicated the challenge was in violation of the recent law outlawing dueling.

Posted by Mercutio 2008-09-18 16:00|| 2008-09-18 16:00|| Front Page Top

#18 Hysterical, shrieking of obiden talking points - simply crass. What's a tad worrisome, all you web monkeys should look into this: astroturfing. Just when you thought this cycle could not get anymore Orwellian.

HA! In my face? Better think about where you're gonna wake up mfer.

Posted by Last Breath Farm Resident 2008-09-18 16:35|| 2008-09-18 16:35|| Front Page Top

#19 Here's a link, getcha started.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/astroturfing_the_new_propagand.html

Posted by Last Breath Farm Resident 2008-09-18 16:51|| 2008-09-18 16:51|| Front Page Top

#20 'He believes in the Second Amendment.' If they tell you, 'Well, he's going to raise your taxes,' you say, 'No, he's not, he's going lower them

In other words he want his acolytes to start arguments based on lies Obma tells them.

ANyoeh that has tried those thing on my has been stopped DEAD by me asking simple questions:

Why did he vote and verbally commit to oulawing handguns in Illinois?

How is he going to cut taxes when he wants to let the Bush tax cuts expire and greatly increase taxes?

Then I point out that what he says is different than what he does - he is a liar, even to his own side - the surveillance act he talked big about opposing for the crowds? He voted for it. Same thing with gun laws - he voted for restrictions and bans.

I then point out the "lies of omission" - According to the campaign (.pdf), Obama "will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting." Notice how it does not mention self-defense purposes.

He talks the talk but does not walk the walk - he is a convincing liar with no record of accomplishment in defending taxpayers or gun owners.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-18 17:02|| 2008-09-18 17:02|| Front Page Top

#21 On every news show I've seen during the last few days, Obama supporters have shouted down opposing points of view, talked over the host and used any question to give long harrangues stating his talking points, no matter what the question - and kept doing it even when the hosts tried to stop them.

In other words, lotp, they are acting like fascists. Or fanatics a'la Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell's zombies.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-18 17:04|| 2008-09-18 17:04|| Front Page Top

#22 Ah, go ahead and get in my face. I gave parking tickets for a living once....and I'm sure I've seen better and more coherent rants from people ticked off about getting caught in a handicapped spot.

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2008-09-18 17:21|| 2008-09-18 17:21|| Front Page Top

#23 I'll save TW the effort; what's astroturfing?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-18 17:40|| 2008-09-18 17:40|| Front Page Top

#24 On every news show I've seen during the last few days, Obama supporters have shouted down opposing points of view, talked over the host and used any question to give long harrangues stating his talking points, no matter what the question - and kept doing it even when the hosts tried to stop them.

Didn't we see this movie before. Like in the late 1930's/early 40's in Germany.

I was switching channels the other day and caught a few seconds old Olbermann's monologue. I couldn't believe the amount of pure hatred being spewed by him on our airwaves. Its not anger, its not 'rage', its not 'righteous indignation', its plan old hatred. Hatred of Bush, hatred of Conservatives, and just hatred of anything outside of his narrow band of 'truth'.

Scary.

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-09-18 17:53|| 2008-09-18 17:53|| Front Page Top

#25 Nimble: It's fake "grassroots" activism pumped out by the yard by a public relation firm's eight-dollar-an-hour flunkies.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-09-18 17:56|| 2008-09-18 17:56|| Front Page Top

#26 It is raw sewage that any thinking person shall not eat.

Posted by newc">newc 2008-09-18 18:29|| 2008-09-18 18:29|| Front Page Top

#27 via Ace of Spades, it usually starts out "I'm a Concerned Christian Conservative, but lately I've been dismayed by John McCain, and taken another look at Barack Obama, who has some interesting ideas...."

usually the name will be single: Jim, Tim, John, Suzy...

Axelrod's firm is a master at this shit, and when you see it, call em out. They don't stay long, or respond to intellectual challenges, because they're going from a script. They actually have no idea what a real Christian Conservative would think

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-18 19:46|| 2008-09-18 19:46|| Front Page Top

#28 "Argue with your friends and neighbors, 'get in their face'"

If you are Obamaniacally confronted, the best yak-repelling tactic is to whip out the best Dirty Harry line ever, "You're mouthwash ain't cuttin' it."

Posted by Hyper 2008-09-18 20:35|| 2008-09-18 20:35|| Front Page Top

#29 Obama: Get in their face and call them all RACISTS! Everyone of them even the ones who been kind to ya!!

Ima race baiting Fool without a predicial bone in my body you Mother Fucking Racists!!

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2008-09-18 21:42|| 2008-09-18 21:42|| Front Page Top