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2004-09-18 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by DanNY 2004-09-18 04:30|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Please, as a courtesy, post an excerpt of any article that is at a site that require registration (WaPo, NYT, etc).

Its common courtesy here, so we can decide if its worth using an ID to hit that site or not.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-18 10:20:33 AM|| 2004-09-18 10:20:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 BAIRD, Tex., Sept. 17 - Bill Burkett, the former Texas National Guard officer who has been caught up in the mystery of how CBS News acquired memos that seem to question President Bush's Vietnam-era National Guard service, unsuccessfully offered information and advice to help the Kerry campaign attack Mr. Bush, according to a posting Mr. Burkett wrote in an e-mail newsletter.

"I spent some time on the phone with the Kerry campaign seniors yesterday," Mr. Burkett wrote on Aug. 21 in an e-mail letter circulated to a list of about 600 Texas Democrats.

He complained that he had to "get through seven layers of bureaucratic kids trying to get a job after the election."

"I talked with Max Cleland," Mr. Burkett continued, referring to the former senator from Georgia who has been supporting Senator John Kerry's Democratic presidential bid.

Alluding to advertisements by a veterans group that deprecates Mr. Kerry's Vietnam service, Mr. Burkett continued, "I asked if they wanted to counterattack or ride this to ground and outlast it, not spending any money. He said counterattack."

"So I gave them the information to do it with," Mr. Burkett wrote. "But none of them have called me back."

Mr. Burkett did not say what information he offered. Earlier this year, he gained attention for saying that in 1998 he saw aides to Gov. George W. Bush of Texas and Guard officials dispose of pieces of Mr. Bush's National Guard record that could prove politically embarrassing. Mr. Bush's aides have denied his account.

"I volunteered to come back out with more," Mr. Burkett wrote.

Mr. Burkett, who was at home on his ranch in Baird, near Abilene, on Friday, declined to comment.

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-18 10:47:51 AM|| 2004-09-18 10:47:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 You are sooo busted!

Posted by badanov 2004-09-18 10:54:34 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-09-18 10:54:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Every town's got a clown like this. Actually I think the deal is about 1 per 10,000.

Posted by Shipman 2004-09-18 11:55:29 AM|| 2004-09-18 11:55:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Sorry OldSpook,

Didn't see any way to do that or I would have.
I guess I need to enroll in Posting 101...

Posted by DanNY 2004-09-18 12:01:39 PM|| 2004-09-18 12:01:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Burkett's as guilty as a cat in a goldfish bowl. The interesting question at this point is whether or not the Kerry campaign was actively involved in passing Burkett's documents to CBS. Normally I'd believe that no campaign would be that stupid but Rather's continued stonewalling in the face of overwhelming evidence is amazingly suspicious.

Posted by AzCat 2004-09-18 12:13:12 PM|| 2004-09-18 12:13:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 New bumper sticker:

Somewhere in Texas, a village still has its idiot.

Posted by jackal 2004-09-18 2:23:12 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2004-09-18 2:23:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 So, Burkett talked to "Stumpy" (Cleland)....

Burkett says Bush is Hitler, and Stumpy says Bush is evil.

They've got lots to talk about. This is obvious.

Posted by BigEd 2004-09-18 3:15:39 PM|| 2004-09-18 3:15:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The people at the prison jumpsuit factory have got to be going crazy if this turns out to be really big. All those custom jobs. Double sized special for Michael Moore - One Sleeve and no legs for Cleland... Hipless model for his hypothesizing Attorney VanOs (an obvious snake-snakes have no hips) . And the Siamese twin model for Carville and Begala. Let's not forget George Soros who will demand it be made of Silk and have an extra large pocket for an extra large ego. And can afford an attorney to file the papers.

Posted by BigEd 2004-09-18 3:24:25 PM|| 2004-09-18 3:24:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 LOL, jackel!

I want one. :-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-09-18 3:42:48 PM|| 2004-09-18 3:42:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 just shows what a loser Cleland really is....

wonder if he's still delivering Kerry's mail for him

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-18 3:45:50 PM|| 2004-09-18 3:45:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 DanNY: Choose "Post your own article" (not "post a link"); highlight the section of the article you want to post (you'll need 2 internet windows open - one on the article and one to Rantburg); use "edit-copy" to copy it; paste it on the Rantburg page; do all the rest (fill in the link, make a title, add snarky comments as desired).

Remember you can back up and make changes as many times as you need before you click "Accept."

Just a little help from one who regularly screws up posting. :-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-09-18 3:47:32 PM|| 2004-09-18 3:47:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 "...a veterans group that deprecates Mr. Kerry's Vietnam service..."
Attention NYT: (1) To "deprecate" is "to express mild or regretful disapproval," so that's not the right word. (2) The group is Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. And (3) you can't name them because that would reveal your slant -- their obsession is Kerry's lack of truth, not his service.
F#@%ing NYT -- they're incredible, literally.

Posted by Tom 2004-09-18 3:48:48 PM|| 2004-09-18 3:48:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 The general read I get from most blogs and (johhny-come-lately) MSM is that CBS was hoaxed and just refuses to admit it for reasons that are unfathomable.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. They weren't duped, they were caught.

With the testimony of all the CBS experts who say "I never...", or "I warned CBS...", etc., etc., the question becomes, if you know it's a hoax and you decide to proceed anyway, because it fits your agenda, have you been duped? Of course not.

To me the real question isn't one of being duped but rather (no pun intended) did they pro-actively solicit the forgeries?

CBS: "So, Mr X. were looking for anything that makes Bush look bad."

Mr X: "Yeah, sure, I can get you something like that."

Next question - were the Dems involved? I have to admit, this really has the flavor of the Kerry "Step-on-your-own-dick" campaign, but I expect that if there were any collusion, it took place at pretty low levels.

Posted by Mercutio 2004-09-18 5:25:18 PM|| 2004-09-18 5:25:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I wouldn't go so far as calling it active solicitation but there were a couple of stories last week that indicated that CBS has been, since the last election, asking for documents that contain some very specific info. At least one person who was asked indicated that much of the info in the documents could have been inferred or learned outright from CBS's questions. Sorry, I don't have a link. :(

Posted by AzCat 2004-09-18 7:20:16 PM|| 2004-09-18 7:20:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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