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2023-09-15 China-Japan-Koreas
Chinese shipbuilding capacity over 200 times greater than US, Navy intelligence says
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Posted by Skidmark 2023-09-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top
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#1 And weapons production in Russia is ramping up to over 7 times what the US and its Western allies can produce.
Posted by Enver Dingle4916 2023-09-15 00:22||   2023-09-15 00:22|| Front Page Top

#2 How long do the vessels have to float and not catch fire before they count?
Posted by Silentbrick 2023-09-15 04:39||   2023-09-15 04:39|| Front Page Top

#3 "Our PLAN is for boasting the most ships
Controlled by new chips with the most mips
And crewing them all...
Maybe not."
[a Great Wall of atolls full of rusty old ghost ships]

Or else this century's really gonna suck.
Posted by Vernal Whineck2317 2023-09-15 05:36||   2023-09-15 05:36|| Front Page Top

#4 ...If we go to war west of the International Date Line, whether or not we win or lose the US Navy will be literally broken for decades afterwards. All of the available drydocks and dockside repair facilities will be overwhelmed just trying to repair damage, much less replace losses. Aircraft losses will be replaced faster - but only in a relative sense; if they absolutely had to, Boeing (for instance) might be able to turn out 12-14 F-18s in a month - assuming the parts suppliers could keep up.

Worst of all, however, will be the human losses. One carrier - one - could take as many sailors with it as all personnel we lost in the GWOT. We can't meet 'peacetime' manning now - trying to get a new USN manned after a truly ugly war will be nightmarish.

Mike
Posted by MikeKozlowski 2023-09-15 06:52||   2023-09-15 06:52|| Front Page Top

#5 ^Why do you think they've been all these articles about AI lately?
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-15 08:48||   2023-09-15 08:48|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't think the Chinese are building gold plated tricked out graft craft.
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-09-15 08:53||   2023-09-15 08:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Actually, they do have one with a railgun and lasers.
The difference is in China they build what they think they'll need or would be useful, but over here we build what the contractor would like to sell. Do you realize that in several new classes (Virginia, Ford, LCS) there is equipment that sailors aren't allowed to work on because it would violate the builders 'Intellectual Property' rights? What's gonna happen in a freakin' war?
Posted by ed in texas 2023-09-15 09:28||   2023-09-15 09:28|| Front Page Top

#8 In modern warfare ships are just floating targets for missiles. As the Russians are learning in the Black Sea.
Posted by Jerens Black9355 2023-09-15 09:40||   2023-09-15 09:40|| Front Page Top

#9 trying to get a new USN manned after a truly ugly war will be nightmarish.

The frightening aspect of no jobs and no food otherwise may make recruiting easier.

All of the available drydocks and dockside repair facilities will be overwhelmed

Pusan ROK, et. al. foreign ports and logistic facilities have been container nuke targeted for decades.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-09-15 10:32||   2023-09-15 10:32|| Front Page Top

#10 Yess, after an entire fleet is wiped out in a war we would not win, building a new fleet would be a high priority.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-09-15 10:51||   2023-09-15 10:51|| Front Page Top

#11 2034: A Novel of the Next World War
Posted by KBK 2023-09-15 11:02||   2023-09-15 11:02|| Front Page Top

#12 The difference is in China they build what they think they'll need...
Not quite. The PLAN build cycle is evolutionary not revolutionary. They build a block of 2-to-4 and see what works, the newest ships get assigned to the South China Fleet and the older designs shift to less important commands finally ending in their 'Coast Guard'.... Build, test, rethink and build a newer iteration.
Posted by magpie 2023-09-15 11:10||   2023-09-15 11:10|| Front Page Top

#13 

Assuming their chip suppliers could keep up and still exist.
Posted by KBK 2023-09-15 11:10||   2023-09-15 11:10|| Front Page Top

#14  ...turn out 12-14 F-18s in a month - assuming the parts suppliers could keep up.

Assuming their chip suppliers could keep up and still exist.
Posted by KBK 2023-09-15 11:12||   2023-09-15 11:12|| Front Page Top

#15 Yeah, but let's give a hundred billion dollars to the Ukrainians anyway.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-09-15 11:57||   2023-09-15 11:57|| Front Page Top

#16 #13 Exclusive: China to launch $40 billion state fund to boost chip industry
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-15 12:47||   2023-09-15 12:47|| Front Page Top

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