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2009-09-12 Home Front: Politix

Tim Pawlenty advocates state sovereignty

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Posted by Grains Fleamp5856 2009-09-12 07:36|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." 10th Amendment

Is it really that hard for anyone other than a lawyer [or their mutation - a judge] to understand it? /rhet question

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-09-12 10:15|| 2009-09-12 10:15|| Front Page Top

#2 "We the people" get Constitutional principles but the Progressives do not. They believe federal law trumps states rights and international laws and treaties override it all. They want to Mirandize battlefield detainees and give US Constitutional protections to world citizens, want global governance with universal "human rights", and a new currency to undermine American sovereignty. The really scary thing is they have usurped Congress and the Supreme Court with presidential appointees while most are bogged down in the muck of politics or distracted with Solitaire.

Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2009-09-12 10:47|| 2009-09-12 10:47|| Front Page Top

#3 This federalism movement is growing by leaps and bounds. Here is one of the better drafts out there:

http://www.federalismamendment.com/

Written by a Georgetown University Law Professor.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-09-12 11:13|| 2009-09-12 11:13|| Front Page Top

#4 The Tenth Amendment was effectively repealed in 1861-1865. The commendable motivation of ending slavery simultaneously ended States Rights. Later the 17th Amendment nailed the box closed.

Posted by Glenmore 2009-09-12 11:35|| 2009-09-12 11:35|| Front Page Top

#5 The commendable motivation of ending slavery simultaneously ended States Rights.
Posted by Glenmore

Wouldn't want those pesky States going off on their own again.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-09-12 12:47|| 2009-09-12 12:47|| Front Page Top

#6 The Tenth Amendment was effectively repealed in 1861-1865.

More likely by 7 December 1941. After the ACW and even WWI, the country didn't have much problem returning to antebellum relationships because there was no external 'threat' that required a continuous exercise and expansion of central authority. With the power vacuum in the post-WWII environment created by the destruction of the war that those who'd learned the "lesson" of disengagement after WWI as the focus, Washington became an international capital with assumed missions which while addressing international security requirements of those in city eroded the very balance of the Constitution by imbuing in the Executive far more power and with it expanded funding than was ever intended outside short term crisis. The crisis never ended. We had a brief moment with the collapse of the wall, to once again disengage. Instead new 'old' habits took precedent.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-09-12 16:47|| 2009-09-12 16:47|| Front Page Top

#7 State sovereignty is okay, but it's also time to quarantine them and take back our personal freedom and responsibility.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-12 17:04|| 2009-09-12 17:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Time to return the Senate to being appointed by the State Legislatures as our founders intended as a check on the federal government by the state governments.

The current idea of having the Senate controlled by the largest metro areas in a state is a failed Progressive Era experiment and should be undone.

Posted by crosspatch 2009-09-12 23:11|| 2009-09-12 23:11|| Front Page Top

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