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2005-09-12 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve 2005-09-12 09:15|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Another factor is air cover. The disputed waters are within 300 kilometers of Okinawa. This is easily within the combat radius of the Japanese Air Self-Defense Forceâs F-1, F-4EJ Kai, F-15J, and F-2 fighters.

And always bet on the home team.

Posted by Raj 2005-09-12 09:26|| 2005-09-12 09:26|| Front Page Top

#2 I would bet on Japan, simply because the waters are closer and under Japanese air cover and Japan has some really high-tech air and surface forces and they are extreamly well trained. China is behind Japan in all the above catagories, and while there is a quality to quantity, with today's super accurate firepower that old military maxim is becoming less and less true.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-09-12 09:29|| 2005-09-12 09:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Let's play.

Posted by Togo 2005-09-12 10:01|| 2005-09-12 10:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Banzai!

Posted by Admiral Yamamoto 2005-09-12 11:14|| 2005-09-12 11:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Both surface Navys would be doomed in this contest. Neither side has the ability to protect them from determined air and missile attack. Speculation should focus on what happens after all the ships are sunk.

Posted by DoDo 2005-09-12 12:16|| 2005-09-12 12:16|| Front Page Top

#6 As the two hundreth anniversery of Trafalgar approaches, I would say that the navy with the most active sea time would win.

How does the optempo for the Chinese navy compare to the Japanese? That is a primary question.

Needless to say, even though China has nuclear weapons, Japan has Mothra, so there is balance there.

Posted by Penguin 2005-09-12 13:36|| 2005-09-12 13:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Basil H Penguin, Visonary.

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-12 13:58|| 2005-09-12 13:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Bah! None of you are considering the most important factor:

The Japanese military has developed special equipment and extensive experience fighting GIANT MONSTERS such as Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, and Giddora.

The Chinese navy would never stand a chance against the power of Mecha Godzilla after he wades into their formation and crushes their destroyers and frigates.

Posted by Leigh 2005-09-12 14:05|| 2005-09-12 14:05|| Front Page Top

#9 An important factor is "where will the battle take place?" The first assumption would be the islands themselves, but while this may be the goal, it may not be the optimal strategy for either side.

From that axiom, you have to ask: what is the strategic reach of the opponents? Modern naval deep water ships cannot operate without special ports. An attack on a port can cripple a fleet in the right circumstances, as was demonstrated with the Riga disaster and the Russian North Sea Fleet.

Conversely, a domestic disaster, natural or man-made, can force a short term change in national prerogatives, giving the other side a chance to peacefully occupy the islands and set up serious defenses. A massive earthquake in Japan, for example.

Would the battle stop at the islands, or would it extend far beyond them, perhaps far beyond what either side would have originally wanted to go?

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-09-12 14:13|| 2005-09-12 14:13|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, Japan did kick China's ass once before.

If they have the sense to stay far, far away from Pearl Harbor this time, they just might win.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-09-12 15:58|| 2005-09-12 15:58|| Front Page Top

#11 #10, More than likely, I think we'd probably help the Japanese this time.

Depending on what kind of conflict, we could probably just turn the tide with electronic surveillance and information support. Throw in US naval direct action and it would probably fare MUCH, much better in our favor.

Besides, isn't there some sort of Military treaty between the US, SKor and Japan?

Posted by Anon4021 2005-09-12 16:05|| 2005-09-12 16:05|| Front Page Top

#12 US would certainly cover Japans back militarily and supply intel. Nobody gonna do that for the Chinese.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2005-09-12 17:13|| 2005-09-12 17:13|| Front Page Top

#13 Not only intel, I see C-17s flying in with all sorta AIMs, Patriot reloads, Harpoons reloads and maybe a few more Mark 48s, sorta a NickelGrass writ large.

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-12 20:46|| 2005-09-12 20:46|| Front Page Top

#14 The JSDF air force and naval ships are more than capable of defeating China's PLAN and PLAAF. China's true ace is her resort to threats of rapid nuclear escalation ags Japanese mil targets and cities. Many Japanese remain highly sensitive over the 1945 atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Japanese failure to protect their rights will only demons to China that Japan is weak and frightened of nuke war, and willing to make concessions to avoid nuclear confrontation. China's hegemonic ambitions calls for domination of East Asia and the PacRim, NOT co-existence with other "sovereign" states. COmmunism is ultim about UNILATERAL AND UNCONDITIONAL POWER, NOT POWER-SHARING OR DEMOCRACY!? Sino-Nippon events like these will determine whether Japan stays sovereign or becomes a contemp Asian version of a Cold War Warsaw Pact SOviet slave nation.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-09-12 21:43|| 2005-09-12 21:43|| Front Page Top

#15 sounds like the mighty Chinese military is a bag of shit.... a big bag, but still...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-09-12 21:55|| 2005-09-12 21:55|| Front Page Top

#16 sounds like the mighty Chinese military is a bag of shit.... a big bag, but still...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-09-12 21:55|| 2005-09-12 21:55|| Front Page Top

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