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Posted by Steve White 2004-09-11 12:28:10 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 What the hell is it going to take to force CBS to stop stonewalling, and investiagte these documents thoroughly (as in inverviewing ALL the poeple, not jsu those who have an axe to grind, or whom CBS misled)- or at least reveal the sources of the documents?

How do citizens bring to heel a huge corporation that has run amok, disregarded factuality, disregarded inaccauracies, disregarded otuside experst providing contrary information, and disregarded calls for them to investigate thier own work?

What can we do to bring Dan Rather and CBS News to justice?
Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-11 12:50:55 AM||   2004-09-11 12:50:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 We live in a capitalist democracy. Time to start writing short, respectful, well-phrased letters to 1) the Viacom CEO 2) the Viacom board 3) major advertisers on the CBS Evening News and 4) major advertisers on 60 Minutes. Something along the lines of "I won't fact time watching news programs that report forgery as basic truth, so I won't catch your ads about your product." Advertisers do listen.
Posted by Steve White  2004-09-11 12:58:27 AM||   2004-09-11 12:58:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Can someone generate up a list of CBS news advertizers so we know who to boycott?

If you can generate the list, I will email it to somone who will put it up.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-11 1:00:20 AM||   2004-09-11 1:00:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Can someone generate up a list of CBS news advertizers so we know who to boycott? If you can generate the list, I will email it to somone who will put it up

from Right Wing news:

The following were sponsors of the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather on 10 September 2004. In light of CBS and Rather's use of forged documentation in a old story that had been discredited months ago, if anyone is interested in letting their advertisers know you are displeased with the direction they are funneling their advertising dollars, I present this list. Each has a website listed and where possible, I located the immediate corporate parent company of each. Most of these sites have a "Contact us" button near the bottom of the screen.

Lamisil (www.lamisil.com) Parent company is Novartis Consumer Health (www.novartis.com)
Levitra (www.levitra.com) Parent company is Bayer (www.bayer.com)
Lifesavers Candies (www.candystand.com) Parent company is KF Holdings (www.kraftfoods.com)
SmartBalance Popcorn (www.smartbalance.com) Parent company is Good for America Brands (www.gfabrands.com)
Viagra (www.viagra.com) Parent company is Pfizer Pharmaceuticals (www.pfizer.com)
Vioxx (www.vioxx.com) Parent companty is Merck & Co. Pharmaceuticals (www.merck.com)
Cheerios cereal Parent company is General Mills (www.generalmills.com)
Marshall Fields (this might have been a local Chicago ad) Parent company is Target (www.target.com)
PrevAcid (www.prevacid.com) Parent company is TAP Pharmaceuticals (www.tap.com)
Plavix (www.plavix.com) Parent company is Bristol-Myers Squibb (www.bms.com)
Benefiber (www.benefiber.com) Parent company is Novartis Consumer Health (www.novartis.com)
Viagra (2nd ad) (www.viagra.com) Parent company is Pfizer Pharmaceuticals (www.pfizer.com)
by Joekur on 2004-09-10 20:49:43
Posted by badanov  2004-09-11 1:06:55 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif]  2004-09-11 1:06:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 What can we do to bring Dan Rather and CBS News to justice?
Caveat: I'm not a communications law expert . . . Nonetheless, the abuse of the public privilege to broadcast will likely have to be addressed by some governmental agency -- there's not going to be a private cause of action for such a public venture. My guess is that no agency will pursue this, due to purely political considerations.

However, the family of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian has been personally wronged by all this. I would guess they have standing to pursue some private cause of action to address these wrongful actions of CBS -- probably something like:
Extreme and outrageous conduct Conduct that is so outrageous in character, and so extreme in degree, that a reasonable member of the community would regard the conduct as atrocious, going beyond all possible bounds of decency and utterly intolerable in a civilized community.
Whether that particular cause of action is available to them depends on the laws of the state in which they live. If they sued, they could then seek discovery of a lot of stuff . . .

For the rest of us, I like the boycott idea . . .
Posted by cingold 2004-09-11 1:20:43 AM||   2004-09-11 1:20:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I may have found a way - over in another thread for the legal aspects of this here at Rantburg

Basically CBS is caught between thier source violating Dept of Defense rules/laws regarding retention of personal documents, and violation of the copyrights of the Estate of LTC Killian in retaining the documents without permission of the estate (i.e. his son and wife).
Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-11 1:40:13 AM||   2004-09-11 1:40:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 The MSM laughed at the CIA for the Niger documents.

If I were going to pick the forger out of the Kerry campaign, I would start with Exley.
Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-11 2:39:03 AM||   2004-09-11 2:39:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 OK - I emailed the above to my friend with the website. I'll post a link to Rantburg when he gets it put up.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-09-11 3:07:12 AM||   2004-09-11 3:07:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Why stop with only the advertisers on CBS News & 60 Minutes, why not send letters to anybody who advertises on CBS?
Posted by Lurks Often 2004-09-11 10:52:42 PM||   2004-09-11 10:52:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Hi, Old Spook:

Check http://www.rightnation.us there are a few huge threads with lists of info regarding sponsors(addresses, phone numbers, faxes, names of execs, etc) for CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, CNN and others.

Jack
Posted by Jack Deth  2004-09-11 10:58:21 PM||   2004-09-11 10:58:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 badanov's list needs a carryover to tomorrow and monday for widest distribution!
Posted by BigEd 2004-09-11 11:29:24 PM||   2004-09-11 11:29:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Thanks for the list of cbs news advertisers, at first I emailed them but decided to call also using their 1-800 numbers and speak to a live person. I think I was able to make my point about the companies good names being associatd with the lies on cbs and reminded them that I expected them to pressure cbs to be truthful if they want me to buy their products
Posted by Steve85308 2004-09-16 4:52:56 PM||   2004-09-16 4:52:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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